DH is 'glad' of verdict

I suggest we ignore the derail.

Hex, if you tried to tell him now and included all the details do you think he would judge you like he has judged Evan's victim ?

Can we unpack this just a little bit more? If we're proposing ANY class of woman where rape is somehow less bad or mitigated where the hell does that leave society?

If we proposed a class of human beings who it was somehow less bad to kill can you not see how that leads to proper bona fide evil on an epic scale?

I'm not a feminist but no matter which way I look at it with my eyes squinting that picture is as ugly as hell.

I keep coming round to the notion that rape is bad, and if so much heterosexual interactions are so close to rape people can't tell the difference we really are up the creek on this one...

not fit

Maybe most men do think like Hen's husband. If they do then maybe they are fit to be on the streets or around women. If they couldn't stop themselves from shoving their dick into a semi-coscious woman or see nothing wrong in that then maybe they'd be doing womankind a favour by staying the fuck away.

Was she promiscuous (as if that is something bad anyway)? CE only found 2 other partners. Does 3 partners constitute promiscuity these days?

What about the men being so casual about sex? CE didn't even bother to find out her name or tell her his name. Doesn't that warrant some judgement?

And why is it that women need to be more careful, exactly?

What about men who sleep around zefcal? Are they less likely to get sympathy if raped? Are they more likely to be thought of as rapists perhaps? Or will there be no judgement on their sexual promiscuity coz yer know men will be men and all?

And yes how exactly did this woman behave?

I think this thread is way out of proportion.

That's nice for you.

People talking like she just be considering leaving her husband or something lol. He is allowed to have an opinion - its not like saying that he supports rapists.

Just a rapist?

He just doesnt think he is guilty! Except by CE's own testimony, he IS guilty, and was found guilty, but our legal system is terrible.

Also i think a lot of guys while not ever condoning rape might have less sympathy for a woman who is just sleeping around as a matter odlf routine...

That says terrible things about your lot of guys

even after the 'rape' and getting blind drunk to the point that she cant remember stuff.

You spelled it wrong. Sorry to be pedantic but it's not spelled "blind drunk" it's spelled "drugged"

Yes it is still not acceptable for a guy to take advantage ever... But i think most men if they are honest will not feel as much sympathy if a woman behaves like that

Like what?

Definitely nothing like they would to a woman who gets attacked walking home or something which is a wholeee different level.

Ah, rape myths 101 is that way-->

Another one wishing you the best and hoping you are OK Hex .

I'm so sorry op, I would be heartbroken if my dp felt like that. This case has really got to me, I've never been a victim myself but we have 2 dd's and the thought of them, or even myself for that matter ending up in a situation like this in the future and having to go through what the victim in the CE case has been through over the past 5 years absolutely fills me with dread. The way she has been treated both by the uk 'justice' system and the general public has been sickening. I am so glad my dp feels the same. He hasn't followed the case as closely as I have but has been willing to listen to my point of view.

I am not sure I would be able to stay in a relationship with him if he held the views your H does. I hope you're okay

I'm sorry hex his attitude doesn't reflect badly on you if that makes sense

Hope your ok

Thinking of you, hex

Sweetie, I saw your post on another thread (not going to link it here. I think you will know the one I mean). Does your H know about it ?

Oh Hex, don't know what to say but if it helps we're thinking of you.

Hope you're doing OK this morning, Hex.

I don't think you're overreacting by the way. As posters have said upthread, it's not like this is a live-and-let-live, let's-agree-to-differ sort of a disagreement, like which way round the loo roll should go. It's a fundamental question of does he see women as equals or not? And if not, then, in your shoes I would also be seriously thinking about whether I could be married to such a man.

This was a win for misogynists everywhere

Hope you're okay Hex.

Shalli...

Her name has been regularly chanted at various venues since he was put away. Every time she has had to change her name and move away from where she has been hidden, a man whose name is unmentionable goes all out to discover it and then they start chanting her new name. Even when she had to leave the country. His fanboys have a lovely line in chants, one of them is "he rapes who he wants to".

I wonder if he's going to ask to stop any games where he hears those so he can point out to those men that he doesn't want them doing it any more? Maybe they're all hoping for a £50k reward?

Hex how you doing ?