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Ched Evans verdict

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FreshwaterSelkie · 14/10/2016 16:12

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TheDuchessOfKidderminster · 14/10/2016 17:03
  • not guilty
TheDuchessOfKidderminster · 14/10/2016 17:03

I am shocked - not really that the jury found him guilty, but that the retrial was allowed at all. I don't see why her sexual history is a legitimate reason to quash the original conviction. If anyone could enlighten me...

Interesting analysis on The Guardian:

www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/14/campaigners-fear-evans-case-will-stop-women-reporting

scallopsrgreat · 14/10/2016 17:02

The justice system isn't for women.

SomeDyke · 14/10/2016 17:01

Given that Women Against Rape were quoted on the Guardian story, I've just found them online and made a donation.

Might I suggest that others do the same, a flood of money just after this verdict would give them a nice pounds-shillings-pence quantifiable women are really angry over this line. If they could say -- we have received an extra however many individual donations immediately after the verdict?

Plus I had to do something, like many of us here, I feel very angry over this, whilst in my younger days I might have thrown stuff or graffitied, now at least I can donate some dosh that might help. Whilst trying to think what else can we do.............

BeyondPolkadots · 14/10/2016 17:00

I agree pink. I want her to be able to see the ground swell, to know we all believe her

Felascloak · 14/10/2016 17:00

The judge in this trial did not allow the prosecution to bring up that Massey had contacted witnesses.
It's a fucking travesty.
I said on the other thread I will be writing to my MP and the Attorney General plus any other relevant parliamentarians to ask them to look at tightening the law so men have to demonstrate reasonable steps to ascertain consent.
I cannot believe that this case persuaded a just that Ched evans had reasonable belief in the consent of someone he never even spoke to. It's disgustingly.

BeyondPolkadots · 14/10/2016 17:00

God yes, imagine the number of abusive exes there are just from us here, who would gladly sell us down the river for a fiver, never mind £50k :(

PinkissimoAndPearls · 14/10/2016 16:58

I think any action should be a "group" action. We could, and probably already do, individually donate to Womens' Aid and Rape Crisis/local centres/refuges, but I would dearly like some sort of group action or movement making it clear that it is in direct response to this travesty of justice. If nothing else, to send a signal to the victim that we stand by her and support her, and that women want to make their voices heard that this is not justice.

category12 · 14/10/2016 16:56

So fucking depressed. Sad

AyeAmarok · 14/10/2016 16:56

I really hope there is a public outcry about this travesty.

AristotlesTrousers · 14/10/2016 16:54

Another one here very angry (but not surprised) at the verdict. I really, really want to do something that will make our voices heard.

IndominusRex · 14/10/2016 16:54

My ex was abusive. Without any shadow of a doubt he would testify against me as a character witness with or without a £50k bribe under these circumstances.

scallopsrgreat · 14/10/2016 16:53

Sorry WomanWithAltitude said that first!

cadnowyllt · 14/10/2016 16:53

.....and those phrases had been reported.

If that was true, the Court of Appeal would not have quashed the original conviction.

scallopsrgreat · 14/10/2016 16:52

Well indeed Strawberry.

I'm going to tweet that Countess - if you don't mind.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 14/10/2016 16:49

'96% of rapists are not rapists in the eyes of the law'

Would make a good t-shirt, badge, poster, placard at MWR.

PippaFawcett · 14/10/2016 16:48

In fact, I just said to DH that I'm not sure I would encourage DD to report it to police if she was raped. How utterly fucked up is that. I bet Ched's victim wishes she had never said anything.

LyndaNotLinda · 14/10/2016 16:47

The witness who claimed she used the same phrases only came forward with that 'evidence' after Ched's conviction and those phrases had been reported. He made 3 conflicting statements.

PippaFawcett · 14/10/2016 16:47

Strawberry, you should refrain if you can as it adds to their web hits which feed their xenophobic, misogynistic bile.

This verdict is a dark, dark day for women. I worry about the future of the world for our daughters.

StrawberrytallCake · 14/10/2016 16:46

Took 5 years and a 50,000 reward to uncover that particular nugget though eh Scallops?

scallopsrgreat · 14/10/2016 16:46

In fact she allegedly said it to CM.

StrawberrytallCake · 14/10/2016 16:46
scallopsrgreat · 14/10/2016 16:45

"But I think the crucial evidence was apparently there was a particular "phrase" she used on Ched Evans that she has also used on the ex lover."

She didn't "use" it on CE, she said it to CM. Interesting turn of phrase there though.

cadnowyllt · 14/10/2016 16:42

Wait, maybe someone did that already.

Nope, not yet.

StrawberrytallCake · 14/10/2016 16:40

Pippa I say that to myself every day but somehow they still manage to appear somewhere Smile

Either way I don't believe they weren't motivated by the reward. If NM contacted the receptionist of the hotel in that way then it is absurd to think she wouldn't contact other people.

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