Ched Evans verdict

The woman organising the appeal is on BBC today

I agree that anyone naming her should be arrested, to hell with a £600 fine. Put a couple of them in jail and set an example.
As for educating people about the legal system that's a good idea. So few of us actually know how it works until we're caught up in one. I had a look at some stuff on Twitter - it's nasty but so ignorant I can't take these people seriously. I just get a vision of a fat greasy man sitting behind a computer with a beetroot face who is angry at the world and blames it on the feminists.

A good start might be for the police to take it seriously. And in the case of Evans' victim, actually arrest the man who has been publishing her name with impunity for years.

I honestly don't know. I know people can and have been fined for revealing identities of victims who have been given life long anonymity although that doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent. Maybe a harder punishment might be but that doesn't solve the issue of people not knowing what the fuck they're talking about when they spout such toxic bile.

Maybe better education on rape myths and how rape trials are conducted from the beginning would be a good start at eradicating such a mentality. I am by no means and expert but many people seem completely clueless (assuming a not guilty verdict=innocent for example). I just don't see how it can be ignored. Although they may be the minority, they are ruining people's lives, lives of people who have often been through the ringer as it is.

Delete what do you think could be done to stop the online bullying?

I don't know if it is a true reflection of wider society or not, but social media has given these idiots a platform to air their dangerous and damaging views and spread their hate. I don't think this should be ignored when victims are vilified, forced to move and change their identities numerous times as a result.

But is the vile stuff on social media a true reflection of what the majority think? Surely the cowardly comments are being made by a sub class minority. Isn't it best not to over focus on what a small bunch of Neanderthals are spewing out?

It's one of the reasons I've massively gone off football in recent years.

^This^

DH hates football and DS1 isn't interested in it at all. Be devastated if my son's looked up to these 'role models'.

The hero worship of footballers doesn't help the public perception of these cases. For some people they can do no wrong, and even then many believe that how they do on the football pitch is more important than any criminal conviction. I mean look at the Adam Johnson case and the horrific way his victim was treated on social media, and she was a child.

It's one of the reasons I've massively gone off football in recent years.

Have to admit that I snorted at that chant. Wish it was the other way round though.

I'm OK with offensive posts not being deleted quite so often. I would rather see people expose themselves and their arguments get taken apart.

He already has hero status.

Gloria Hunniford is being roundly vilified on Twitter and elsewhere. To the type of man who thinks that what he did was excusable, he is their hero and talisman

I'm starting to think "tash" only feels how her father tells her to feel. I feel her father told CE to describe the sex in response to GH then he would and NM would smile and nod beside him.

I don't think he will attain hero status. Even those who don't think he's a rapist, do find his actions that night despicable.
He can threaten Gloria hunniford with a libel action but that would involve him describing in great detail how the girl was enjoying sex with him. It'll send Tash nuts if she has to hear that all over again.

"He's shit, he missed, he fucks them when they're pissed."

Ched Evans endures unhappy return to the pitch as Chesterfield striker is subjected to distasteful chants | Daily Mail Online
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3863042/Ched-Evans-endures-unhappy-return-pitch-Chesterfield-striker-subjected-distasteful-chants.html

It doesn't say what the chants were. I suspect it was just footballing rivalry rather a heightened conscience which prompted them , but I'm certainly not going to condemn the rival fans.

Jesus, he is an utter cunt isn't he? Rape conviction or no rape conviction surely no one can deny that he is a horrible person.

Do you think he will join with cliff Richard and campaign for anonymity?

God, I do hope not. I can see how it might happen though.

Is anyone else hoping that CE and his hangers on fade into the obscurity they so richly deserve?

Something tells me this guy and his new family will come up smelling of roses. They seem determined not only to clear his name but to keep going until he is a fucking hero for the cause of the falsely accused.

The shooting stuff is awful - I didn't know about any of that. What a thoroughly nasty piece of work he sounds.

Is anyone else hoping that CE and his hangers on fade into the obscurity they so richly deserve?

Yeah. It's shite

MNHQ don't always delete rape apologist stuff, I'm afraid, even when it's pointed out to them. Someone was goading people who were victims of assault on a recent thread and MN left the posts to stand despite reports.

Pre-emptive, sadly MNHQ have recently taken to only posting the we believe you campaign page and allowing some really egregious stuff to stand. I report when I see it, but there are still posts on various rape themed threads which to all intents and purposes tell women that if you do X or fail to do X, then rape is your just deserts.

Oh god, low boredom threshold? Shooting a kid as well as shooting in the house? No doubt the apologists will blame it on their youth - boys will be boys eh?

Good lord, he really is the most horrible cunt.