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Ched Evans verdict

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FreshwaterSelkie · 14/10/2016 16:12

to continue the discussion as the previous thread closed.

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BeyondReasonablyDoubts · 18/10/2016 18:52

I wonder when she had been sick for McDonald to say that? You don't say "sick" interchangeably with "legless" do you?
Is that info in the public domain?

merrymouse · 18/10/2016 18:52

Maybe they are upset about the 'dead body'? The new defence apparently proved she was a willing participant. The problem for Massey is that the more he drags it up, the more people are reminded of what his daughter's fiancée undoubtedly did that night.

JenLindleyShitMom · 18/10/2016 18:50

Yes I think you're right, I think I remember reading that he went to the bathroom and got dressed while CE was [insert own description for what happened] and left while it was still happening and told receptionist she was sick, while it was still happening. Hmm so I guess not technically a threesome despite that being proposed to the woman. Not sure why they would object to it being described as that though as CE admitted in original trial that he had had threesomes with his mates before.

DeleteOrDecay · 18/10/2016 18:46

I was under the impression that CM left pretty much as soon as CE began taking his 'turn'.

God, just typing that sentence made me feel sick. What a disgusting turn of events.

JenLindleyShitMom · 18/10/2016 18:42

Was it not a threesome? CM asked her if his mate could "join in" surely that indicated their intention for the 3 of them to be involved?

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 18/10/2016 18:41

The fiancées father is clearly a freak. Perhaps he feels the daughters relationship with the gobshite enhances his prestige? Kind of like a downmarket Mrs bennet raving on about mr darcy.

BeyondReasonablyDoubts · 18/10/2016 18:38

A tweet made me actually lol...
It said (paraphrased) "if they think that's bad, they should hear what regular people are saying" Grin

DeleteOrDecay · 18/10/2016 18:35

Ive just seen the report regarding the Loose Women thing, was just about to post it here but it seems I was beaten to it.

Anyway from what Ive read of the article in The Mirror, the only misinformation is one of the panel claiming it was a 3 some.

That family is very strange, people are allowed to air their opinions, no one on the panel said anything untoward. Are they going to go after everyone on Twitter or even Mumsnet for saying similar things?

JenLindleyShitMom · 18/10/2016 18:31

I can see this becoming a [she who must not be mentioned] situation except it's not just MN that can't discuss it, its everyone.

Marbleheadjohnson · 18/10/2016 18:31

Hopefully I TV tell them to piss off. Loose Women is prerecorded I think? I went to a filming years ago dont judge me, I can't see them broadcasting anything precorded and libellous

JenLindleyShitMom · 18/10/2016 18:28

Yes the massey's behaviour in all this has been very odd. I can understand her sticking by him. I do get that despite thinking it wrong but for her family to spend so many thousands of pounds actively defending him and even now still after he has been cleared. It's strange.

Marbleheadjohnson · 18/10/2016 18:25

Gloria Hunniford said... "In my opinion it shows the type of man he is though.

"The facts of the case, maybe I am naive because I am of an era where a threesome meant the three bears, I don't understand threesomes.

"The mere fact that his mate goes 'I've got this girl' and he has a threesome and there's two blokes outside filming it and he never says a word to the girl and leaves down the fire escape.

"This girl apparently as it turned out was so drunk that it was almost like making love to a dead body.

"In my mind I just can't comprehend in all of that. Ched Evans is the last person I would be sending my children to any kind of sex education."

Don't see any misrepresentation there.

Marbleheadjohnson · 18/10/2016 18:20

Apparently she said it must have been like having sex with a corpse. Which sounds like opinion to me.

JenLindleyShitMom · 18/10/2016 18:19

What was the misinformation? I can't see anything she said that wasn't as it was said in court.

BeyondReasonablyDoubts · 18/10/2016 18:17

You say 'they', it's Natasha's daddy again.
Not their legal team - "ITV have confirmed Karl Massay, the father of Evans' fiancée Natasha, has filed a complaint on behalf of the family." (from The Mirror)

Seems to personally have a weird vested interest in this...!!

merrymouse · 18/10/2016 18:15

I thought the Gloria Hunniford thing was going to be about her saying he was guilty - all she related was what seem to be the undisputed facts of the case.

Marbleheadjohnson · 18/10/2016 18:12

They've made a complaint about Gloria Hunniford erm, telling the truth and giving an opinion about whether she'd want Evans giving her grandchildren education on consent and alcohol. Lol.

Loose Women, The Sun, the Daily Fail (even Jan sodding Moir!). I bet they weren't expecting this kind of frowning upon him from those outlets.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 18/10/2016 17:18

I will sign as soon as i can figure out the email i usually use

BeyondReasonablyDoubts · 18/10/2016 17:13

And I just retweeted the shit out of #ibelieveher Grin

Memoires · 18/10/2016 17:12

Signed

MostlyHet · 18/10/2016 17:09

I've started a thread in chat to try to draw people's attention to the petition.

DeleteOrDecay · 18/10/2016 17:01

Has it been shared on Twitter? Under the hash tag #ibelieveher it would probably get a fair few signatures.

MostlyHet · 18/10/2016 16:58

Signed.

Two hours in and only 87 signatures... how can we get it more widely seen?

venusinscorpio · 18/10/2016 16:54

Yes have signed too. Thanks beyond for the link.

JenLindleyShitMom · 18/10/2016 16:20

I've signed too.

CE is turning this into the CE show. It's fucking sick inducing what he is doing. Why can't he just say "ok I've been cleared, I'm done with it now"? No, he has to continue torturing that woman. He truly is a vile human being.