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Ched Evans verdict

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FreshwaterSelkie · 14/10/2016 16:12

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Ellie7878 · 21/11/2016 14:09

Evan's is a disgraceful scuzzbag. Even if what he did didn't meet the legal definition of rape, he still treated an intoxicated woman like a wankbucket.

Xenophile · 20/11/2016 00:35

Shockingly, no.

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PortiaCastis · 19/11/2016 23:42

His victim will never have peace

YonicProbe · 19/11/2016 23:39

Nope!

HTH, mr newbie chedder.

Totallymyownperson · 19/11/2016 23:16

Move on tell - that to his future father in law. Didn't think he would start doing interviews especially a month on.

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Totallymyownperson · 18/11/2016 20:20

Now even Karl Massey giving interviews about it. He says he wants to give the woman a hug - just another PR move. I think his realised his help in getting acquittal has impressed anyone. Maybe people are boycotting his business. I hope they are money is the only thing these people care about

Xenophile · 17/11/2016 10:34

Reminds me to stay off social media today, his gurning visage makes me want to spit.

SomeDyke · 17/11/2016 10:17

According to the BBC:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-38007467

they plan to have a review of the Section 41 whereby details of a victims sexual history can be introduced in court.

Which is the least we can expect, and if nothing else keeps his name in the headlines...............

Totallymyownperson · 05/11/2016 22:30

Why is it that when someone is found guilty beyond reasonable doubt people and press can say they are innocent but when done is found not guilty by reasonable doubt no one can say they disagree with the verdict.

cadnowyllt · 28/10/2016 17:19

Did anyone hear all of it?

Yes, and no surprise, she does not support a change in the law following the Chedwyn Evans acquittal re: s41.

annandale · 28/10/2016 16:09

I caught the tail end of a discussion about this case on Law in Action, Radio 4, between ?Joshua Rosenberg the presenter and Alison Saunders from the CPS. Did anyone hear all of it? Will try to listen again.

SomeDyke · 28/10/2016 13:46

Fund now over 25K. Which is half way! hurrah!

SomeDyke · 27/10/2016 18:17

"I know what you mean SpeakNoWords."

Ditto.

M0stlyHet · 27/10/2016 16:16

milk - thanks! It's an issue which affects all of us, albeit with differing risks depending on demographic - but the horror of the attack is the same. (And yes, I think the defence barrister bringing up the past sex life was done for the explicit reason of excusing the defendant's behaviour - I know that there are lawyers who claim that this was not the correct interpretation, but I am aware of quite senior practicing lawyers who feel that this is exactly the correct interpretation of what the defence team were up to).

scallopsrgreat · 27/10/2016 15:56

It is emotional SomeDyke.

I know what you mean SpeakNoWords.

SpeakNoWords · 27/10/2016 15:32

I donated, and I'm thrilled at how the total has risen. Jean is a star for organising it. I was totally despondent on the day of the trial verdict, whereas now I feel like there's a tiny ray of light.

SomeDyke · 27/10/2016 15:27

"and asked why they didn't have any celebrity supporters, she was told it was because there was felt to be a stigma attached, that it was "dirty"."
Which is terrible.

But my second responses was, the gofundme is great because it is just ordinary women (and a few men). I've been watching for a while, and you can see that most donations are small (only one of 1K, a few at 500, really only a handful above £100). The average, looking at the latest figures, is around £20. So, ordinary women, who all felt the way we did about the result of this verdict and about what happened to this woman. Okay, a celebrity could bung in a few thousand and never notice it, but it's the hundreds of ordinary folk putting in £5, or a few quid and a message, that really count and that are the real message here!

Feeling quite emotional about all this................

cadnowyllt · 27/10/2016 15:23

I would be infuriated if a defence barrister brought up my sex history to justify the defendants attack.

That's not what happened.

How natural selection hasn't wiped out inferior humans like that - I'll never know.

maybe you've misunderstood natural selection ?

Milklollies · 27/10/2016 15:17

I actually support the victim. I'm a gay man and rape when drunk is still a risk to me. I would be infuriated if a defence barrister brought up my sex history to justify the defendants attack. This case applies to everyone(including me) and I have donated. I also agree about changing the law to make sure those disgusting tactics can't be used. I have nothing but contempt for The rapists supporters. How natural selection hasn't wiped out inferior humans like that - I'll never know.

Queenoftheblues · 27/10/2016 15:10

Will do!

scallopsrgreat · 27/10/2016 13:50

Done!

Xenophile · 27/10/2016 13:15

Rape crisis.

Jean has been inundated with 700+ messages of abuse. Some of it is seriously nasty and has been passed on to the police.

If anyone tweets, we (Jean's friends) would really appreciate you retweeting the gofundme if you feel you can. It's obviously making a real impression.

SomeDyke · 27/10/2016 12:51

"I would imagine that some would prefer to support Rape Crisis or Women's Aid rather than give to just one individual in this way. "
Rather sad if some people think like that.

Except the money is going to be split between the individual and a Rape Crisis Charity (sorry can't quite recall exactly which one!).

Why not do both?

As has been said on the gofundme, it's a very direct way of showing her that she is supported, the messages people leave and the message of support that being a donor gives.

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