Transwoman Rugby player experienced severe bullying

crikey

Dont fucking read it then

It was perfectly clear that it was a "trans" thread from the title

Above all else I didn’t want to be a parody in a dress and I didn’t want to be an ugly woman! If that was going to be the case, I thought to myself, forget it, I’ll stay a boy!

As is often the case, it's all about appearance and stereotypes of how women should look

"To be honest, my first reaction was “What kind of a real woman would want to run around in the insect ridden wilds of Michigan? Are you kidding? This is something you really want to do?” Camping in the woods and bonding with nature among our own gender sounds like a “guy thing” is what these “womyn” really want to do."

Caroline seems very satisfied that the 'trans-exclusionary policy' of Michigan Womyn's Music Festival led to its closing down as obviously it is not fair to keep even one single event for women-born-women, but Caroline is mystified why any woman would want to go to it because Caroline is a REAL woman you see, inside, where it counts, more Woman than women-born-women and Caroline knows it's not womanly to run around in the woods together doing basically boy stuff.

There's a shorter version in the DM from earlier this month. The invective against women has not been included.

Layt is now 50 and retired from women's rugby two years ago.

As I'm slogging through their life story hoping to get to the point, my main impression is of a total disdain for women. But no, we have penis envy.

On the latest Site Stuff thread, it was suggested by some all trans issue related threads be moved to FWR!

Why another fucking trans thread. In feminism.

God I'm bored of this.

i know someone who had gender reassignment surgery early twenties and now plays womens hockey competitively. She is way bigger now than she was as a teenage boy. I think its wrong really as i dont think the women she plays with know she is TG. She is an extremely powerful looking person with a bone crunching handshake.

I couldn't be arsed to read all of it either. Men shouldn't be playing rugby against women though. The author also said something about terfs having been unpopular at school and that's why we want to pick on poor tw. It was a quote from Paris lees. Such a deep analysis of women's concerns

I like how Layt can simultaneously believe 'I'm much slower/weaker than I used to be therefore I should definitely be allowed to compete against women' and 'I won all these trophies and beat all these women therefore I'm really good at sport and should definitely be allowed to compete against women'.

Can't be arsed to read all that self indulgent waffle.

"I'd go so far as to say some TERFS have penis envy" FFS Missing the point by a mile. Get a grip you deluded prat.

They would still have the skeleton of a man, they have different hip bones and freer joint movement in the hips. How on earth can a man compete with women? I could paint myself green but it wouldn't make me a frog!

I play women's rugby and a friend of mine was called up to play army/raf/navy level. We play at a decent level but she is a better, stronger, fitter player than me. There was a transwoman playing against her and she said she had never, ever been hit so hard or found it so hard to hit someone as that person.
I've tried tackling men when playing causally in the park and can vouch it is another level of pain against their strength and sinewy, hard musculature.

Having said that, if a transwoman had been taking hormones since puberty then I would have no issue with it as they wouldn't have had all the hormonal advantages of being an adult man.

I'm very sorry Layt was beaten up by teammates acting in concert. There is no excuse for that.

"My training worked a treat, as I won the women’s 35-39 years 100-200 metres double, as well as winning the long jump 4.06 at the Sydney Gay Games. My 100/200 metre winning times were 13.54/28.14. My 100 metre time was much slower than when I ran the 100 metre open division at the GPS Meeting 1983 11.73 as a young male athlete.
My 100/200/400 metre personal best times as a male athlete were 11.28/23.70/50.80. It’s easy to see through the hormone therapy and my loss of muscle mass as me now being female, I had lost strength, power and speed, which equated to my slower times."

I would also expect slower times from anyone 19 years older than the age at which they ran their PB.