Transwoman Rugby player experienced severe bullying

What a colossal, self-absorbed bellend.

Yep all I can say after reading it is what a horrible bully. That poor woman he attacked on the field.

The writer of the blog doesn't just have make privilege, he also describes his childhood and family background as being fantastically wealthy. These types are not used to being told no. They get what they want, wherever that happens to be.

I know, Winchester. Contact sports are sex-segregated for reasons of safety, among others. I read some of this idiot's blog and the whiff of male socialization is overpowering.

Thanks, Charlie, for the link. I'll go and have a look.

That's horrific. Can't believe a man would think that's OK to play rugby against women

It would be lovely if, just once, a trans activist tried to answer some of the basic questions instead of metaphorically popping their head round the door, shrieking "transphobia" and vanishing

There's a couple turned up on this thread Prawn, feels like more than a touch of mansplaining though, and still no specific answers, just 'it's a complex issue'

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2734911-Consquences-of-self-identification?msgid=63860697

I'm really bored of trans stuff too. Crikey. I wish they'd look in the mirror, check their underwear and recognize that, while it's great to be gender non-conforming, human beings can't change sex. Get on with their lives.

But no. We're seeing a constant stream of trans stories, both news and outright propaganda. Last week we had first (male) woman on the front line, attempted murder by a transwoman of a coach about to expose him for winning medals intended for female competitors alone. Oh, and another fucking "pregnant man." And the trans kid on Radio 4. Keeps on and on.

Let's be clear. I'm bored of the trans crap. I'm not bored of discussing the issues because it's gotta be done. It's high priority. The success of trans activists in crushing women's rights, our spaces, our sports - these issues are of relevance to all women. As for children and the young, the risks of this agenda are hard to over-estimate. If a dc of mine got sucked into this cult I'd be terrified.

Trans ideology and identities are popping up everywhere, and these threads will do the same. It's the spirit of the times and I feel an obligation to contest it in whatever way I can. Every time the news overflows with more trans bollocks more women reach peak trans. Eventually a tipping point will be reached.

But it is pretty boring fighting the same battles again. It would be lovely if, just once, a trans activist tried to answer some of the basic questions instead of metaphorically popping their head round the door, shrieking "transphobia" and vanishing. The reason trans activists are so keen on telling women to STFU is that any debate quickly exposes the gaping holes in their ideology. If transwomen are at risk in men's rooms because men are violent, etc...

I’d go as far to say that some TERFs possibly have penis envy? Quite possibly a few even secretly want to be male, but they don’t have the courage to be transgender, because you see transitioning is tough and expensive and it means turning your whole life upside down, with the risk of losing everything you hold dear, including your credibility and standing in society, your family and friends, your employment and the way others view you.

Oh, this is rich. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure that among adult transitioners, MtTs outnumber FtTs. So there's a disproportionate number of men who are obsessed with women's bodies to the point that they're willing to have hormone treatment, maybe even surgery, to emulate them... but we're the ones with penis envy?

So sitting down on the loo makes you a woman? I must tell DH.

I just thought it made him civilised

I'm confused. Caroline seems to be simultaneously saying teams should be biologically based, and that trans women and trans men should be able to play on women's teams.

Reads like that to me. yet again a case of 'men' and 'not-men'

For the record, I think transmen should be on the womens team UNLESS they have been taking testosterone as treatment.

But surely the fair way here is that (given trans seems so prominent in sports at the moment) to have a whole other category for transmen and women part way/fully through transition? Would be fairer...transmen may have the extra testosterone but transwomen would generally have the frame of a man?

Those who simply dress up as the opposite sex, obviously play on the team their sex aligns with.

Haven't read it but Tumblr is trans-central, with honourable exceptions of course (Miranda and Helen's blogs, for eg).

I had a tumblr for fan reasons but I got a bit fed up of all this kind of shit popping up.

From carolinelayt.tumblr.com/post/145950152842/when-a-player-on-the-other-team-looks-way-too-much

"Also, this post does nothing to respect those players who intend to have a specific aesthetic to their style or gender expression. All because a player participates on a women’s team, doesn’t mean that they actually identify with terms such as “female” or “woman,” but find their bodies better suited to participate within the category, based on a multitude of factors that are all very personal and are often biologically based."

I'm confused. Caroline seems to be simultaneously saying teams should be biologically based, and that trans women and trans men should be able to play on women's teams.

Is she? Help me out!

What a doofus.

Well that's long and self-absorbed!

Spoilt, narcissistic, violent are a few words that spring to mind.

Self indulgent twaddle.

Still Spartacus.

OMG just read their post on their home page. What a piece of work. Manages somehow to make the suicide of someone they bullied mercilessly at school all about them and their trans issues. Just a breathtaking lack of empathy.
I actually feel really upset by that post. That poor man (the one who committed suicide).

What a load of self indulgent blaaaaaah
I am probably a "mean girl feminist" though and everyone hated me at school.

I particularly like how he thought our mums would be fine if we went through their stuff while out because we are "cis". My mum would've gone absolutely totally apeshit. As would I if my kids did that. Nothing to do with trans issues, more to do with respecting people's boundaries, possessions and privacy.

I just couldn't read it all - it was very hate-filled, but he seems to be gloating that women got angry when they discovered that he was trans, that the women he hurt, that he aggressively and unfairly competed with were upset by that.

I think I'd be angry if I discovered someone was competing in the wrong class too. I think that's justified, particularly in a contact sport like rugby where it's downright dangerous.

I am guessing, by the nature of competitive sport, that there are a fair amount of decisions by the coach that the player disagrees with.

If a penis lets you travel through life with the Teflon brains and sense of entitlement/righteousness some men/TWs have, I'll call myself envious.

Telling that he compares his career with that of Fallon Fox

The tone throughout is just so superior. Nasty TERFs who refuse to fawn all over you. Don't worry though, they'll learn.

Hormones and surgery can do nowt for male entitlement.

I read the first few hundred words or so of misogynist waffle then couldn't take it any more.
If he has been set upon and beaten up that is not ok.
His views are also not ok.
Except they are, in this brave new world where hating women is fine as long as you call them TERFs.

Exactly ageingrunner, god forbid he end up an 'ugly woman', could there be anything worse?