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Polish abortion ban - London protest

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RoseDeGambrinus · 23/09/2016 15:07

The Polish parliament has just voted through to legislative committee a law that would ban all abortion except if the mother was dying, even in cases of rape or incest. Women could be sentenced to 5 years in prison for having an abortion or even miscarriage. Plus I think it bans the morning after pill and sex education in schools. Sorry I've got no time to post more but search for #czarnyprotest and I think there is a protest outside the Polish embassy here tomorrow at 4pm. Just aaargh.

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 25/09/2016 15:25

I remember thinking way back when Solidarity was throwing out communism that there would be a huge element of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I'm not by a million miles away supporter of communism/Marxism/ socialism but having the Catholic Church dictate social policy is not an improvement.

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DrinkFeckArseGirls · 25/09/2016 10:06

Off out to work but just marking my place. Eugh.

ChocChocPorridge · 25/09/2016 10:04

How can you sign up to everything you sign up for when you join the EU, then do this? How is it that we have regulations around everything from cucumbers to livestock to house insulation, but none around how women must be treated.

If the WEP is going to be good for anything at all, they could at least make a stand on this. Make a real change for women.

PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 25/09/2016 08:52

What was that alternative economics book a few years back? One of the chapters was about an Eastern European country that made abortion illegal (and birth control hard to get as well, I think) and the dictator reaped what he sowed, about 20 years later, when these children rose up in rebellion.

Was satisfying to read, but who wants to wait 20 years? Not me.

Xenophile · 24/09/2016 21:05

Speak, there is talk of only being able to implant a single embryo each time, and no embryos can be frozen at all. So yes, it effectively means the end of IVF in Poland.

I suppose it's consistent at least, if they are saying that human life begins at conception Hmm then creating more than one embryo means more than one alive person, which cannot be frozen and implanting more than one embryo raises the possibility that one of them will not develop into and actual human.

It's the forced birther end game really. Wait out for US states thinking this is all a SUPER idea.

PotteringAlong · 24/09/2016 19:05

speak, I think it's just the storage of embryos long term, but I don't know.

tribpot · 24/09/2016 18:53

I see it would also impose prison sentences on women who have abortions. How is any of this compatible with human rights legislation?

sooperdooper · 24/09/2016 18:40

Unbelievable Sad why on earth are women's rights going backwards in this day & age? How utterly depressing

SpeakNoWords · 24/09/2016 18:37

Does that make IVF impossible? Or is it just the long term storage of embryos that would be affected? It's a huge backward step either way.

PotteringAlong · 24/09/2016 17:50

According to the guardian they've also made it illegal to freeze embryos for IVF treatments.

BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 24/09/2016 16:40

What the hell is going on - where did this come from?!
Why are we going backwards? :(

Soubriquet · 23/09/2016 15:08

Well what a backwards step for women's right to bodily autonomy