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(Yes it's a trans thread! Don't click if you're gonna whinge) The SAGE test.

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BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 01/09/2016 13:44

Having been directed to this test by someone who has come to mn to enlighten us all as to how we are all wrong to think "trans are in league with the devil" (wtf?!) and how "yes gender is not provable, but neither is God and we all believe he is real" (again wtf?!), I decided to have a go. Apparently it is used as part of the diagnostic procedure, though this person does seem to be posting from Amercia.

I will warn you, it is a truly awfully written and unbelievably biased piece of bullshit, featuring spelling mistakes, leading questions, and at one point the wrong "there"!! It didn't take too long though, and thanks to it I now know that I am a man. There are issues with some questions raised that can easily be 'answered' by my asd, so it's a tad biased there too.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else fancied having a go at it too...

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WilLiAmHerschel · 01/09/2016 17:50

I can't do the test on my phone but I can guess it would tell me I need to transition!

PolterGoose · 01/09/2016 17:40

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tabulahrasa · 01/09/2016 17:34

"Anyone androgynous is trans"

No, I'm intersex apparently...

Though I'm not even sure anyone in RL would even say I'm androgynous TBH.

It was a really weird load of questions anyway.

BertrandRussell · 01/09/2016 17:32

I'm wondering what my "mild conflicts about my gender identity" were- I suspect it was to do with Star Trek...........

Soubriquet · 01/09/2016 17:31

Am I the only one so far to get a feminine answer?

Cherylene · 01/09/2016 17:30

Blimey! Lost the will to live there - and the answer Hmm

It was so long and McAfee didn't like it, but there is no way I'm going to try it again.

Written for American men, IMHO, in spite of having the option of 'female' at the end. Utter rubbish - could not find an answer for several of the questions. Not sure most American men would find answers either.

BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 01/09/2016 17:28

My favourite answer

"I hate Star Trek and everything it stands for !!!"
Grin

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FreshwaterSelkie · 01/09/2016 17:27

Socialising in a masculine way: Down the boozer with your mates for beer and football and scratching your nuts.
Socialising in a feminine way: giggling in a spa with your girlfriends while you get your nails done and sip prosecco.
Socialising in an androgynous way: erm...scratching your nuts in a spa while footballers get their nails done?

PolterGoose · 01/09/2016 17:22

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pontificationcentral · 01/09/2016 17:20

It's hilarious to read such sexist fetishistic guff, but terrifying to realize that this pseudo-test was being proffered as a scientific rationale by a trans woman. Terrifying.
I know a fair few folk who are transitioning, and there is a lot of desperately fetishistic stuff, as well as the usual stupid stereotyping, so it's no surprise. I do wonder if these men realize that women don't orgasm hourly from the sheer delight of housework. And that to choose the stereotypical answers to this sort of shite doesn't mean you should have been a woman. The fact that the GICs rely heavily on this sort of stereotyping to decide treatment (not this actual test, but a lot of the indicators) has always been frightening to me...

TheFallenMadonna · 01/09/2016 17:20

Sports vs quilting circles. Hugging vs errr... not hugging.

KanyesVest · 01/09/2016 17:20

I had to randomly guess st the picture ones because I'm on my phone and they are a pain in the hoop. Anyway, I'm...

S.A.G.E. Test Results
Your Raw Score is: 375, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous
Your appearance is Quite Female
Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.
You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.
You believe you have normal doubts about your gender identity.
You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Crossdresser
NOTES:
Your Answers indicate your psychological state has likely prevailed since you were quite young.
You are in a statistical minority as a anallophilic crossdresser. Most crossdressers are heterosexual. Your motivation for crossdressing may be driven by the undirected nature of your sexuality, as a way to more fully explore the Male gender role.

I would consider myself quite typically feminine in my appearance, but I guess short hair and using power tools last week to do diy dh wouldn't attempt threw the whole thing off Hmm

butterfliesandzebras · 01/09/2016 17:20

I cruelly subjected my husband to this as well. Being beardy he also commented on the hair removal question having no appropriate answer for him.

Despite it claiming he's androgynous and conflicted he is in fact perfectly happily male.

Your Raw Score is: 340, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous
Your appearance is Androgynous
Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.
You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.
You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.
You indicated your were born Male.

ANALYSIS:
Male to Female possible Transsexual

Lowwoman · 01/09/2016 17:16

Hi, new to posting on MN. The test wouldn't work on my phone, but I'm curious, WTF is socialising in a masculine way? I see my friends and we chat. DH sees his friends and they chat. I'm so conflicted! Shock

TheFallenMadonna · 01/09/2016 17:09

Oh I forgot star trek. That's why I'm androgynous. Love Maths hate Star Trek. Clearly dysphoric...

tabulahrasa · 01/09/2016 17:06

"But I like cars and Star Trek"

Oh I'd forgotten those ones, I wondered how I broke it.

I thought it was my equal hatred of cleaning and DIY that did it.

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/09/2016 16:57
  1. I think like a bloke, I act like a bloke and according to them am transitioning to male. Odd since I'm not and wouldn't dream of it. But I like cars and Star Trek! Oh and NONE OF THOSE ARE MONKEYS!!!
MangoMoon · 01/09/2016 16:53

Sorry, I bolded mine because I am important! WinkGrin

MangoMoon · 01/09/2016 16:52

Is that survey actually used for anything in real life?!

Your Raw Score is: -305, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous
Your appearance is Quite Female
Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.
You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.
You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.
You indicated your were born Female.
ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Crossdresser

What an absolute crock of shit!!

PolterGoose · 01/09/2016 16:44

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BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 01/09/2016 16:41

I don't have a small waist, just a particularly fat arse Grin

I love that the only fully female female is "Bert" hehehe

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spottedshirt · 01/09/2016 16:41

Hello, new to the feminist boards. I got:

Your Raw Score is: 585, which indicates that overall you are Feminine

Your appearance is Quite Female

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Female person.

You appear to socialize in a feminine manner.

You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
No conflicts, you appear to fully accept your physical sex and gender identity.
NOTES:

Your Answers indicate your psychological state has likely prevailed since you were quite young.

BertrandRussell, I'm a 'proper girl' too.

I thought it was a bit weird, as I've previously been analysed using the BEM sex role inventory and come up as being androgynous.

noeffingidea · 01/09/2016 16:28

Same here, SirVix.
Oh well, never mind.
I got the gist when I answered the question about hip/waist ratio. I've never had a small waist, no matter how slim and active I've been. That has absolutely no bearingon my ability to be pregnant, give birth, etc.

BertrandRussell · 01/09/2016 16:25

"S.A.G.E. Test Results
Your Raw Score is: 560, which indicates that overall you are Feminine

Your appearance is Feminine

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Female person.

You appear to socialize in a feminine manner.

You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
No conflicts, you appear to fully accept your physical sex and gender identity.
NOTES:"

Am I the only "proper girl" so far?

thecraftyfox · 01/09/2016 16:24

I came out as a female crossdresser. Well I am wearing trousers and brogues today...