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(Yes it's a trans thread! Don't click if you're gonna whinge) The SAGE test.

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BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 01/09/2016 13:44

Having been directed to this test by someone who has come to mn to enlighten us all as to how we are all wrong to think "trans are in league with the devil" (wtf?!) and how "yes gender is not provable, but neither is God and we all believe he is real" (again wtf?!), I decided to have a go. Apparently it is used as part of the diagnostic procedure, though this person does seem to be posting from Amercia.

I will warn you, it is a truly awfully written and unbelievably biased piece of bullshit, featuring spelling mistakes, leading questions, and at one point the wrong "there"!! It didn't take too long though, and thanks to it I now know that I am a man. There are issues with some questions raised that can easily be 'answered' by my asd, so it's a tad biased there too.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else fancied having a go at it too...

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 05/03/2017 16:16

It tells me I'm a female to male cross dresser.

In reality I last wore jeans almost 30 years ago; have owned 4 tailored female trouser suits in my entire life and currently have over 50 dresses and a similar number of skirts in my wardrobe.

Some many of the answers were just inapplicable- eg I have no interest or opinion at all on martial arts.

(Yes it's a trans thread! Don't click if you're gonna whinge) The SAGE test.
Chickennuggetfeeder · 05/03/2017 12:47

Or maybe it's all a load of bollocks being pushed as fact and scarily lots of people accept it as such!

WankingMonkey · 05/03/2017 12:18

So..maybe 1 or two people have 'normal' results out of like 100+ people who took it. So really? Only 2 people are actually have sex matching 'gender'/ So it seems...those who are 'cis' are the rare ones? Hmm.

Chickennuggetfeeder · 05/03/2017 08:45

Well it gave dp a laugh if nothing else apparently he always suspected I was a man Hmm

tygr · 05/03/2017 00:26

What a weird test. I'm glad that I'm not aroused by mundane tasks.

Anyway, this was my result.

Your Raw Score is: -410, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous
Your appearance is Androgynous
Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.
You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.
You believe you have normal doubts about your gender identity.
You indicated your were born Female.
ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Crossdresser 
NOTES:
• Your Answers indicate your psychological state has likely prevailed since you were quite young.
• You are in a statistical minority as a bisexual crossdresser. Most crossdressers are heterosexual. Your motivation for crossdressing may be driven by the binary nature of your sexuality, as a way to more fully explore the Male gender role.

I do wear a lot of clothes from the men's department so I suppose I kinda am a bisexual crossdresser but would never describe myself thus!

Chickennuggetfeeder · 05/03/2017 00:21

Female to male trans

Wtf talk about using stereotypes. As for the pregnant dream question my biggest fear is getting pregnant again plus I'm sterilized so yeah lol.

I also like dressing in men's clothes doesn't mean I am one.

Sisinisawa · 04/03/2017 23:36

I'm an androgynous cross dresser!

Actually I'm a bisexual woman who definitely isn't androgynous.

It's such bollocks.

(Yes it's a trans thread! Don't click if you're gonna whinge) The SAGE test.
CocoaLeaves · 04/03/2017 06:00

Yes, I am about to do some DIY - at 6am because I love it so much!!

Nope, because I need to do it before DC awake, otherwise they will want to paint too. Oh yes, and I lack a man to do it, the man I used to have wouldn't have done it, and I cannot afford to pay a man to do it. Plus, I can do it myself.

Is this for real? It will be only real men can have careers soon. And the vote. And an education.

BevGoldbergsSister · 03/03/2017 23:37

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CocoaLeaves · 03/03/2017 21:09

Gave up after about ten questions, good grief is all I can say 🤦🏻‍♀️

VestalVirgin · 03/03/2017 21:00

This would work pretty well as a test on who is actually a woman, though.

The percentage of real women who get a kick out of doing housework dressed as French maid must be pretty low, considering that most women either find ways to get out of housework despite the gendered expectations because they loathe it so much, or do enough housework on a regular basis to have gotten used to it, even if they found it exciting at some point in time.

M0stlyBowlingHedgehog · 03/03/2017 19:57

I seem to remember from back when I did it that the only way to get the answer "unequivocally a woman" (whether in the conventional sense or the new-fangled "equipped with a lady stick" sense) was to say you got a sexual kick out of doing the housework dressed as a French maid.

If you don't like housework or dressing as a French maid, but have a uterus, then sorry, you're a transman in denial.

Cutting edge science it ain't.

picklemepopcorn · 03/03/2017 17:19

So, is this still being used and still stupid?
Can we email our results to someone and highlight how useless it is?
Surely it is in no way functional, unless all these people are wrong to be comfortable in their skins?

VestalVirgin · 03/03/2017 17:00

Your Raw Score is: -420, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous

Your appearance is Androgynous

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.

You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.

You believe you have normal doubts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Crossdresser
NOTES:

Your Answers indicate your psychological state has likely prevailed since you were quite young.
You are in a statistical minority as a anallophilic crossdresser. Most crossdressers are heterosexual. Your motivation for crossdressing may be driven by the undirected nature of your sexuality, as a way to more fully explore the Male gender role.

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I actually said I was heterosexual. Hm. But since I find men with long hair hot, and we all know that long hair = female, perhaps that fits. Grin

Greypaw · 03/03/2017 16:58

Interesting how many of us on here are in a "statistical minority".

BonjourMinou · 03/03/2017 16:29

Your Raw Score is: 445, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous
Your appearance is Androgynous
Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.
You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.
You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.
You indicated your were born Female.
ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Crossdresser 
NOTES:
• Your Answers indicate your psychological state has likely prevailed since you were quite young.
• You are in a statistical minority as a anallophilic crossdresser. Most crossdressers are heterosexual. Your motivation for crossdressing may be driven by the undirected nature of your sexuality, as a way to more fully explore the Male gender role.

What! I didn't think that quiz would ever end. Most of my answers were driven by my dyspraxia, rather than my desire to cross dress. And YY to the pp who mentioned the test was not designed for hairy feminists!

Datun · 03/03/2017 15:38

If everyone scored 'normal' doubts on these tests on their gender identity (because they have no fucking clue as it doesn't exist), how come everyone is either a transsexual or a cross dresser?

Nobrain · 03/03/2017 15:27

Sorry I'm a bit late to this thread...

My results couldn't be more wrong!

S.A.G.E. Test Results
Your Raw Score is: 350, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous
Your appearance is Androgynous
Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.
You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.
You believe you have normal doubts about your gender identity.
You indicated your were born Female.
ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Crossdresser
NOTES:
• You are in a statistical minority as a bisexual crossdresser. Most crossdressers are heterosexual. Your motivation for crossdressing may be driven by the binary nature of your sexuality, as a way to more fully explore the Male gender role.

Babieseverywhere · 02/10/2016 21:39

S.A.G.E. Test Results
Your Raw Score is: -495, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous
Your appearance is Androgynous
Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.
You appear to socialize in a masculine manner.
You believe you have normal doubts about your gender identity.
You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
Female to Male possible Transsexual
NOTES:
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MissiAmphetamine · 05/09/2016 12:41

Unfortunately it does seem to be about erasing women, rather than being aware of non-menstruating women, judging by their tweet about Purvi Patel who was imprisoned for feticide - mobile.twitter.com/PPact/status/772196983851380736
"Purvi Patel has been released from prison, but people continue to be criminalized for their pregancy outcomes."
(Emphasis mine)

Lorelei76 · 05/09/2016 12:21

I can't be arsed reading that thread, but I did wonder if PP used that term for a different reason - e.g. to avoid offending women who don't menstruate for medical reasons, menopausal women. But given I hadn't realised how far the trans agenda had gone till I joined MN, I am probably wrong.

MissiAmphetamine · 05/09/2016 12:07

Well, whether we're men, women, or non-men, we at least know that a good portion of us are 'menstruators', according to Planned Parenthood Grin

Lorelei76 · 05/09/2016 10:31

Beyond - according to this test I think most of us are men.

according to current terminology, I suspect we are non-men
!!!!!!!!!!

BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 05/09/2016 02:58

Are we allowed to be feminists anymore?

Surely now we are allies ?

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WankingMonkey · 04/09/2016 14:11

I confused the test and apparently that means I am intersexed. I believe someone else got the same result too Grin

So mainly FTM crossdressers or transexxuals. 3 'real' women and 2 intersex. Isn't it weird how we all gravitated together unknowingly...all of these 'minorities'