Modern fomance

It's no that way I think Lass, I can't remember the last time I thought I was being chatted up and I spend a fair amount of time with men for one reason or another so plenty of conversations have been had. Of course I'm probably a bit invisible now, but I've not been in the dating market for decades. Possibly I'm a bit oblivious in any case.

Wooing, to me, has the connotations of one party (male or female, but usually male) being supplicant to the other for her/his romantic attention.

Surely it's too old fashioned a concept to apply much in the UK today?!

If you think it means persuade you to have sex then I can see that someone might then assume that if 'getting to know someone' is defined as wooing any man being friendly is really just trying to get their end away, with no actual interest in you as a person

Sorry, but I cannot imagine how any one can come to the conclusion that all men being friendly or "talking with genuine interest and attention" are just doing so with a view to getting their end away with that person.

I think that it may depend on your definition of 'wooing'. If you think it means persuade you to have sex then I can see that someone might then assume that if 'getting to know someone' is defined as wooing any man being friendly is really just trying to get their end away, with no actual interest in you as a person.

If on the other hand you think that wooing is more like courtship, involving flirting and generally having a fun time getting to know someone with perhaps the hope that something of a relationship might develop but no pressure for sex then you'd have more of a positive spin on it.

Well, you know, I have for some time suspected that men only talk to me with genuine interest and attention if they want to get in my pants, but it's still depressing to have this confirmed

Even homosexual men ? Or men who don't find you physically attractive? How is this theory "confirmed"

It's one of the rape apologists/ pro punter apologist excuses isn't it that men have such strong , uncontrollable sex drives that they can't help themselves and you seem to be backing this up with this sweeping generalisation.

I think talking to someone with genuine interest and attention, effort to discover different facets of their personality counts as wooing.

Well, you know, I have for some time suspected that men only talk to me with genuine interest and attention if they want to get in my pants, but it's still depressing to have this confirmed.

I think talking to someone with genuine interest and attention, effort to discover different facets of their personality counts as wooing.

what romantic things could a man do to convince you to give him a date?

None. Either I want a date with him, or I don't.

Being an overall decent human being helps, but he'd have to do that all the time, not only when he realizes that he wants a date with me.

I am a romantic. I love flowers and watching sunsets together and all that.
That does not mean that one an use those things to make me fall in love. Human biology, or psychology, does not work like that.

i don't actually have a romantic bone in my body

I don't think I do either

A romantic weekend
Fun filled family day out
Relaxing spa break

All make me shudder.

" As all the old things are now considered creepy, so what romantic things could a man do to convince you to give him a date?"

Not think of anything he was doing to be to ' convince meto give him a date' would be one!

Chat and see if we get on, go from there.

Well, how would you ask a man out? Whatever it is, that is what he should do.

As I recall, now DH took a bit of time to get to know me and then asked if I'd like to go for a walk around lesser known parts of the city as we were both interested in history. So talking helps