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Having sex with transwomen is so much better than with those frigid women

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AskBasil · 02/08/2016 11:43

transsingleblog.wordpress.com/2016/04/25/make-love-with-transgender-females/ Have a look at this. Look how much contempt for real women there is, on this site.

Women have horrible vaginas and we're frigid. Luckily there's transwomen who are much better, but don't worry guys, they're really real women, so you won't be gay if you fuck them.

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HermioneWeasley · 02/08/2016 13:19

As well as all the horrors of vaginas, the idea that all women are and want to be submissive and "led" sexually makes me throw up a bit in my mouth

tribpot · 02/08/2016 13:18

I see that the definition of a woman is one who understands the needs and desires of men. I hope that transwomen, like all women, want a bit more for themselves than this.

LilacSpunkMonkey · 02/08/2016 13:18

By the whole 'they understand men much better' is he not surely saying 'because they think like men'?

Which kind of undoes his argument of them being women, does it? They feel like men in that case.

So if any transaction activists use it as a good thing they need to realise it doesn't do them any favours.

QueenLaBeefah · 02/08/2016 13:15

The author is clearly suffering from internalised homophobia.

KittensandKnitting · 02/08/2016 13:14

Sorry I meant to say Twit as well :)

Emphasis was on the COMPLETE not a "bit of"

Claraoswald36 · 02/08/2016 13:13

It's also pretty insulting to trans women and suggests they are an homogenous group.
You could replace every trans woman in the article with 'nurses' and every cis woman with 'flight attendant' and it would read much the same Hmm

Claraoswald36 · 02/08/2016 13:10

I was trying to avoid genitalia words!!

KittensandKnitting · 02/08/2016 13:08

No "bit of a twit" about it

He is a complete twat.

who based on the second article seems to have failed at relationships with women, because they didn't want relationships with him (I can imagine this is the type of idiot who tries it on and fails because the woman who says no to him must be a lesbian) and now he seems to think transwomen are just waiting to meet him, the man of their dreams! Because you know "they understand him"

It's insulting on so many levels to women and transgender women.

AllMyBestFriendsAreMetalheads · 02/08/2016 13:05

Part of me feels a bit sorry for them actually. Saying that transwomen have 'better proportioned bodies than cis-women' suggests to me that this person doesn't actually find women all that attractive. That anal sex is ok because a transwoman is a woman, not a man.

It's so very deeply homophobic. What messages has this person been given in their lives to get to this point?

Claraoswald36 · 02/08/2016 12:53

That's an immensely smug and stupid article written by a bit of a twit.
the superior tone is just laughable.
You know what trans world - I don't think I'm superior to you lot because I am comfortable with my birth gender so don't be lording it over me because you arnt.

lionheart · 02/08/2016 12:49

I thought the Op was being facetious with the use of that term.

AndYourBirdCanSing · 02/08/2016 12:48

Fucking hell.

I agree- I wouldn't call transwomen 'real' women. They're not Confused

NeedACleverNN · 02/08/2016 12:47

Rea

That is ridiculous. It's a way for homophobic men to indulge their forbidden fantasies and still be allowed amongst his friends cos "it's a woman really init"

What a ridiculous thing for them to say

ReaWithson · 02/08/2016 12:43

Apparently women are not real women - transwomen are Confused

ReaWithson · 02/08/2016 12:41

transgender woman are women, and in many ways they are probably the only women around. A transgender woman, due to her unique position of being born in the wrong body, understands the needs and desires of men in ways that are impossible for an average cis-woman

transsingleblog.wordpress.com/2016/05/30/why-get-a-transgender-girlfriend/

AskBasil · 02/08/2016 12:40

I don't think the use of the term real women is unfair Mrs M, so we'll have to disagree.

I don't think transwomen are real women. That doesn't mean I want them persecuted, or don't believe that they are entitled to dignity, respect and human rights. It's just that I don't believe they are women in the sense that someone who has experienced girlhood and the biological reality of womanhood, is a woman.

I'm done bending over backwards to avoid using language that might upset or anger transwomen. I don't go out of my way to do so, obviously, but I won't hedge my language anymore, to spare the feelings of biological XY people from the class which oppresses my class.. I'm prepared to be civil, polite, even kind by using her when I mean him - but I will not describe real women as cis and not pretend that people who are XY with male socialisation, are women. And if we need a term to differentiate women from transwomen, then real seems to me to capture it, though I'm happy to accept a less upsetting term as long as it's not at the expense of reality.

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GladAllOver · 02/08/2016 12:36

trans-exclusionary feminism

WTF does that mean? Why do people have to make up all these weird definitions instead of saying what they mean?

KittensandKnitting · 02/08/2016 12:36

im speechless...

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 02/08/2016 12:29

I also have a sneaking suspicion that the author hasn't actually slept with many women at all, trans or otherwise.
The whole article screams bad trans Mills and Boon

FreshwaterSelkie · 02/08/2016 12:29

Oops, should say "this article was just horrid on every level".

FreshwaterSelkie · 02/08/2016 12:24

I'm ok with my feminism excluding anyone who is openly contemptuous of women, such as the author of this article, and anyone who thinks it's saying something worth saying.

Just horrid on every level. Unpleasant, delusional, misogynist and not even well written.

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 02/08/2016 12:20

That's a hell of an article.
Manages to insult transwomen, born women, gay men, bisexual men and straight men in a few short paragraphs.

RufusTheReindeer · 02/08/2016 12:19

Dont get excited morris Grin

I am fairly convinced that there will be more "peak" to come

Save some of the mint cake

Xenophile · 02/08/2016 12:19

IKR Morris, it's like scaling the entire Alpine ranges.

MorrisZapp · 02/08/2016 12:15

Peak peak peak! Dons knapsack, grabs crampon, eats mintcake.

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