Why are people so defensive towards alleged rapists?

And Hannah everyone's brother who has been accused of rape believes they were falsely accused.

Yes Hannah I do. Two people actually. Nothing really happened to them tbh. Their lives are going on as normal.

Trying, so sorry.

Gone, WBY is targeting rape myths like those believed by trying's friends a and family around blame. If people who love her are so steeped in rape myths that they don't start by believing her and encouraging and supporting a report, then the reporting rates will not change. And victims will feel alone.

WBY is not about changing the jury system or whatever. It goes far deeper than that. Which is why I asked you to describe what you had a problem with on WBY once you'd looked at it in greater detail. You've chosen not to do so, which is your prerogative of course

Does anyone actually know someone that was accused of rape? Unfortunately my brother was. The girl he consensually slept with had a boyfriend and 2 days later told him she was raped. Absolutely horrific for all if us, I never doubted his innocence but someone posted on social media. He's a shell of the man he was, always thinking back and questioning what happened. These liars give genuine rape victims a bad name! It's awful x

Toads, you aren't responsible for him xx

I could have told someone right after it happened.

Instead I let my sister make jokes about what we had been up to...when I could have told them he had raped me.

We could have went straight to the police there and then and he might have been locked away now.

I feel a bit guilty about now about not reporting my rapist.

What if he raped other women after me? I could have stopped that if I had reported him.

You didn't give the legal system an opportunity to bring this person to justice.

Not really the point of the thread, but seriously?!

"I'm not sure who your man on the Clapham omnibus is but I can't get my head round the idea that a man's concern for how rape victims are treated is only given conditionally if he gets an assurance anyone making false accusation is dealt with."

Yy to that, lass

I bet there are more fraudulent burglary claims than false rape claims but the starting point is not the assumption a person is lying about being burgled.

Very good point.

Otherwise, how can you, in all seriousness, expect the man on the street to give a flying fuck about you?

This is the bit I really don't get. I'm not sure who your man on the Clapham omnibus is but I can't get my head round the idea that a man's concern for how rape victims are treated is only given conditionally if he gets an assurance anyone making false accusation is dealt with.

Or why you think false accusations are not dealt with- because they are.

Ripple, stats are obviously very hard to come by for rapists; i said more than 1 in 100 as I had a vague memory of one study showing 1 in 20 and another 1 in 60; my main point with the post was that as each woman probably knows, even if not well, at least 100 men as family, friends, acquaintances and colleagues, most of us are likely to know a rapist. (Yes, I know that's a bit simplistic from the stats POV!)

I did find this article about college rapists, showing it at more than 10% across two studies, but not sure of selection criteria for the cohorts.

archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2375127

People tend to disbelieve rape victims.

And even when they believe them there is still a tendency to excuse the rapist and try to blame the victim instead.

Why is this?

Rape is a far bigger problem though.

I think people need some perspective.

And gone is seriously pissing me off.

"the victim " not "team victim"

Does something need to happen in epidemic numbers for it to be a problem?

I would say so, yes

I disagree with just about everything gone is saying but, no something doesn't have to be epidemic levels to be a problem.

No idea why that posted twice

the 'I believe you' campaign and is, as we have said, unique among crimes except possibly child abuse;

The point being there is no other crime where the starting point is not to believe team victim.

I bet there are more fraudulent burglary claims than false rape claims but the starting point is not the assumption a person is lying about being burgled.

Does something need to happen in epidemic numbers for it to be a problem?

I would say so, yes.

Does something need to happen in epidemic numbers for it to be a problem?

I would say so, yes.

trying
I think sometimes people (I mean friends and family) minimise stuff people they know have been through because they don't want to face up to the horrificness of it, or have to deal with the consequences. It's easier to deny it. It does hurt though.

I'm sorry this thread has made you feel not believed. I believe you and I'd believe you irl too

An old paper and hopefully things have improved but a 2002 study showed US college students thought 50% of rape complaints were made up.

This is the result of giving overmuch media space to reporting on false accusations vs reporting on the far more prevalent crimes of rape and sexual abuse.

www.cluteinstitute.com/ojs/index.php/CIER/article/view/1201/1185

From here

rapecrisis.org.uk/statistics.php

Here are some key statistics about sexual violence:

Approximately 85,000 women and 12,000 men are raped in England and Wales alone every year; that's roughly 11 rapes (of adults alone) every hour
Nearly half a million adults are sexually assaulted in England and Wales each year
1 in 5 women aged 16 - 59 has experienced some form of sexual violence since the age of 16
Only around 15% of those who experience sexual violence choose to report to the police
Approximately 90% of those who are raped know the perpetrator prior to the offence

From rape crisis. So around 10% are stranger rapes.

gone

Are you against anonymity for those accused of other crimes such as murder or racist attacks?