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Feminists hate men

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GirlWithTheLionHeart · 24/07/2016 21:04

What's your reply to this? I need something good to come back with for future reference.

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BigNothing · 05/09/2021 18:16

Some schools are yet to go back, I note...

ZOMBIE THREAD ALERT (but worth reading!)

TurquoiseBaubles · 05/09/2021 18:13

I just love these well-reasoned convincing arguments on old threads GrinGrin

I will immediately stop being a feminist.

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erinaceus · 27/07/2016 05:42

GirlWithTheLionHeart

Thank you.

It is difficult to make statements about what feminists believe because we are a heterogenous bunch. Different feminists believe different things. I found it most helpful to work out what I believe and then talk about that.

I have a pet hate of being spoken for, I do not automatically agree with statements about what feminists do or do not do and do or do not believe. I do not speak for other feminists either, nor for other women unless I am clear that I speak about my experience both as a woman and as a member of the class of women, a set of inferences that has its limits.

So, if I am told that feminists hate men, I say, well, this is not the case, and I am your proof by counter-example.

I am fun to be around, honest.

JaWellNoFine · 26/07/2016 23:56

Feminists hate male privilege and all the horrors that it brings with it.

BertrandRussell · 26/07/2016 23:39

"They are the brunt of a lot of males jokes I reckon"

Not the brunt of jokes by any man I would like to know- I'm sure you feel the same. Make sure he knows that.

BertrandRussell · 26/07/2016 23:37

Just keep asking him what he means. Why does he think feminists are dramatic?

JacquettaWoodville · 26/07/2016 23:01

I assume he's never been a woman?

Would he similarly think a black person telling him about racism was dramatic, I wonder?

FGM, rape, street harassment, equal pay, Abortion rights... Which of those does he think feminists dramatise?

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GirlWithTheLionHeart · 26/07/2016 22:08

Yeah I knew that and love telling people that trivia :)

I think I will do that next time Jac. Re our daughter, he's very against sexism but makes out feminists are a bit dramatic. They are the brunt of a lot of males jokes I reckon

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TeiTetua · 26/07/2016 21:04

Speaking of "devil's avocado", I'm sure everyone knows that the word avocado comes from a Central American native word meaning "testicle".

JacquettaWoodville · 26/07/2016 20:36

And I would straight out ask him why he is mocking something that's important to you

JacquettaWoodville · 26/07/2016 20:26

Ok, how would he respond if said daughter complained about sexism in due course, do you think?

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GirlWithTheLionHeart · 26/07/2016 19:16

We have a 6 month old daughter now too so I guess I feel even more strongly about things and wish he was 'on side'

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GirlWithTheLionHeart · 26/07/2016 19:15

No, not really not likeable. He was raised by a mentally ill mother who was pretty violent and abusive, no emotion etc so he is pretty good going considering. Not excusing just trying to give more of a picture

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JacquettaWoodville · 26/07/2016 18:33

...his actions as a man towards you as a feminist are, if not hateful, aren't likeable, are they?

JacquettaWoodville · 26/07/2016 18:31

...love is a verb, and all that.

JacquettaWoodville · 26/07/2016 18:31

I know you aren't married, but scoffing at you isn't very love, honour and cherish, is it?

Why is he deliberately unkind to you given he loves you?

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GirlWithTheLionHeart · 26/07/2016 18:04

Not really win, just scoff at. :(

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JacquettaWoodville · 26/07/2016 17:57

Does he, perhaps, treat something that's real and meaningful and upsetting to you - justifiably so - as a debating society point that he wants to "win"?

JacquettaWoodville · 26/07/2016 17:55

I see.

And if you tell him about an example of racism or homophobia you heard of, is any headgear removal requested than? Or is it just sexism that he wants you to let pass?

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GirlWithTheLionHeart · 26/07/2016 17:33

No, just with feminism. Tells me to take my feminist hat off when I start on something about men. It's mostly in jest but I didn't like when he said that the other day and I didn't have a good response.
Maybe when the kids are in bed I'll bring it up and have this thread open and ready!

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JacquettaWoodville · 26/07/2016 09:53

Does your partner do a lot of setting out to wind you up (aka mock things that are important to you and minimise your opinions)?

JacquettaWoodville · 26/07/2016 09:52

Not a typo! An expression of my opinion of that role...

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GirlWithTheLionHeart · 26/07/2016 09:45

Best autocorret ever!!

I don't know if he believes it. It was my partner who said it. I think he was trying to wind me up. I just said so you don't believe women should have equal rights then? Aren't you a feminist. He didn't really reply.

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BertrandRussell · 26/07/2016 09:24

I can't tell you how much I like the sound of being a devil's avocado........