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Abortion Support Network- abortion not just a women's issue?

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Doobigetta · 11/07/2016 17:29

Apologies- I know lots of people are sick of hearing about the trans issue. But I received the following email from the ASN today-

Calling all creative minds
Six and a half years ago we were very fortunate to have someone design a logo for us. Our logo has served us well but ASN has grown and we feel it’s time for our brand to have a bit of a touch up. We are particularly interested in a logo that is more in line with the fact that we sometimes hear from trans people and others who do not consider themselves to be women. At ASN we’ve crowd sourced everything from our first logo to our director’s 2015 salary and we thought we’d do the same with our new logo. Interested? Email us and we'll send you the brief. You don’t even need to be an "official" - if our favourite image is a doodle we can get one of our amazing volunteer designers whip it into a graphic. We can’t wait to see what you come up with!

I've responded to say I'd be very unhappy about them badging abortion rights as anything other than a women's issue, and that I feel conflating it with questions of gender identity weakens and undermines the importance of it as a women's issue. Please, if you feel the same way, could you let ASN know?

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BigDeskBob · 12/07/2016 11:37

It would be interesting to know whether they have had comments from pregnant ftt who feel excluded from using the service, or they are anticipating negative publicity. Or if it's just an excuse for a relaunch.

FarelyKnuts · 12/07/2016 09:34

Considering the charity largely supports Irish women, I would imagine the number of people who are ftm trans who avail of the service has got to be vanishingly small.

Just5minswithDacre · 12/07/2016 01:24

(That's an unfortunate formatting glitch. The original says 'discriminates against women').

Just5minswithDacre · 12/07/2016 01:20

What really made me gawp/snort was that two items down from that on the newsletter was this;

10 June 2016
Irish Post
UN rules that ‘cruel and inhuman’ Irish abortion law discriminates against womenen_
“Let’s hope the Irish government ends its emotional and financial punishment of people who chose to terminate non viable pregnancies by allowing them to do so at home.”*

So the UN thinks that it's women who have abortions, but again the editorial text is "people who choose to terminate..."

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 12/07/2016 01:03

From the title I had assumed it was similar to the idea that pornography and prostitution damages society as a whole.

Getting a new logo seems an odd priority and an odd way to spend money.

LowAMH · 11/07/2016 23:55

How Infuriating and bloody stupid

SuburbanRhonda · 11/07/2016 23:48

I got that email and I was a bit unsure whether to query it because they do such fantastic work purely on donations and it seems wrong to be critical.

But actually I did find myself thinking, what, really? So I'll email too.

Thelilywhite · 11/07/2016 23:45

I will email too.

FarelyKnuts · 11/07/2016 23:35
Hmm
PinkyofPie · 11/07/2016 23:23

I will email them. How utterly ridiculous. Only females can get pregnant, therefore only females can access abortions, let's not skirt round this issue!

VestalVirgin · 11/07/2016 21:20
Confused This is beyond ridiculous.

I had hoped when I read the title this was about how denying women basic human rights is shameful to society as a whole, and to the men in it, too ...

But they seriously hop on the "women are not the only people who can be in need of abortions" train? What?

It's like they're telling us the sky is purple and the moon made of green cheese.

Don't know if I as non-Brit have any influence here, but I totally agree with you.