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Feminists- what stops you giving up and helps you keep going?

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LastFirstEverything · 12/06/2016 20:09

By 'giving up' I mean by being a feminist in public, either in 'real life' or on the internet; so, on mumsnet, or facebook, making comments btl on blogs or articles, or wherever.

Because, I often feel disheartened by real life conversations and by some attitudes I come across. The everyday sexism can be so pervasive. I used to try to talk to my mum about things I felt, about feminism, but she really doesn't 'do' feminism. I don't have many close friends, and those that I have are lovely, but are not up for much feminist chat.

So I feel isolated, but come onto mumsnet, and feel less so. But there's a bit of anti-feminism here too (not HERE here, but peppered throughout the threads on AIBU and chat). It's depressing, but I like variety and freedom, so enjoy the variety of opinions too.

Then, I just read the Office leg shaving thread, and just felt so fed up, at times it all feels so futile- the caring about sexism. Makes me want to just never engage because I don't have the energy. Found the Guardian article on it very depressing too, because I really like Victoria C-M, and then I start wondering if I'm just a bit stupid to care at all, about any of it.

SO- Do you ever feel like this too?
If so, do you have any tips on how you cope with the ennui, the depression, the desire to give up bothering any more?

I think if I had a real life community of feminist friends, like I had (briefly) over 20 years ago now as a student, it might be easier. But maybe not, because it wasn't exactly easy at the time- it was challenging and embarrassing to be seen as a feminist, I found. Blush I was often more concerned about being attractive to men, or to 'cooler' friends.

I've been reading (online) Andrea Dworkin, who has encouraged me somewhat. And I like watching Gail Dines videos on YouTube that I've recently discovered. What do YOU do?

Please give me some encouragement or ideas (if you can). Many thanks.

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Shallishanti · 12/06/2016 21:43

being unemployed sucks
why not volunteer for a womens project of some kind?
and definitely find some local sisters

LastFirstEverything · 12/06/2016 21:38

You are right! Thank you. x Flowers

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RebelRogue · 12/06/2016 21:26

Thanks x Don't let unemployment bring you down. Your opinion is not any less important just because you don't have a job. Sexism and everything else doesn't just disappear and they should be challenged. Maybe use this time to reconnect with your inner feminist. It sounds daft i know, but remember what makes you one,read and research. Look for local groups online or face to face. Debate every subject you can think of and draw power from it. You're currently unemployed and it on't last forever. You'll always be a feminist x

LastFirstEverything · 12/06/2016 21:08

Thank you Rebel Smile Excellent name btw.

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LastFirstEverything · 12/06/2016 21:07

Thank you Shalli, that's a great idea! And what a lovely response, thank you. I think I'm getting downhearted because of being currently unemployed, it's really getting to me. So is having a knock on effect in everything in my life.

But I will definitely watch that film, I used to live right near, as in feet away, from the Ford works in Dagenham too!

You're so right about the language and possibility of discussion. I'm so pleased this place exists.

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RebelRogue · 12/06/2016 21:02

Because what you do,think,say matters Smile

Shallishanti · 12/06/2016 20:57

Take courage from our foremothers- remember how far we have come- we can vote, keep our own property if we marry, divorce and keep our children, have (limited) control of our fertility and, most importantly, have a language and conceptual framework for naming and discussing women's oppression.
Many of the gains we have made now seem 'normal' and younger women take them for granted, that doesn't mean we shouldn't be grateful to the women who fought for them. Watch that film about the women at Ford who went on strike for equal pay, that will cheer you up Grin

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