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This is getting out of control - Ladyfest

238 replies

Chickpeasandpakchoi · 03/06/2016 19:52

Has banned the use of the word 'clitoris' at its feminist festival as it it trans exclusionary.
www.feministcurrent.com/2016/06/03/german-ladyfest-clitoris-exclusionary/
I hope it is boycotted by women. How DARE they tell us we cannot celebrate and talk about our female anatomy?

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Petal40 · 03/06/2016 23:02

Don't want to google gender queer...or queer feminism..I reject all stupid names and terminologys....I'm not pandering to this crap...if a person has a penis he is male...I refuse to give any of my time to these attention seeking wannabe females....a male in a dress,doesn't need a name.it is what it is.a male in a dress.same person,weather in a dress or jeans,no stupid name needed.rediculous.all gone to far

NeedACleverNN · 03/06/2016 23:01

Isn't gender queer just another way of saying non-binary or is that something else entirely?

AuntDotsie · 03/06/2016 23:00

Sorry, Dione, I didn't realise it was actually A Thing!

By Queer Feminism, we mean a feminism that is different–a feminism that directly challenges the issues above and does not rest on its laurels. We believe that the definition of feminism that focuses on equality between men and women both excludes non-binary genders and ignores the serious problems created by patriarchy that harm people of any gender and can be exacerbated by people of any gender.

I don't even know where to start with that.

DioneTheDiabolist · 03/06/2016 22:56

If you Google "gender queer" and "queer feminism" you'll find better definitions than I could give you. Gender Queer has been a thing for some time now. I think queer feminism is more recent.

NeedACleverNN · 03/06/2016 22:54

Pretty much spot on there petal Grin

VestalVirgin · 03/06/2016 22:54

Anita Sarkeesian got rape threats for ... pointing out that some videogames glorify rape (among other things.) The irony of this was apparently lost on the gamers who were so insulted by the accusation of misogyny that they ... reacted by proving that they are, indeed, very misogynist.

Therefore, it would not surprise me at all if MtT were so insulted by talk about female anatomy that they'd threated to rape someone with their penis. Or actually do so.

Petal40 · 03/06/2016 22:50

To sum up,before I go to bed...a spade is a spade.a clit is a clit...an owner of a penis is male.a man.not a woman.not ever,not while it dangles....therefore no place at a woman's festival....idiots running the festival for allowing men in....needs boycotting to prove a point...my sympathies 100% for anyone going through a sex change,genuinely feeling they are in the wrong body....any one male who wants to wear a dress, 100 % fine with that too...but don't call yrself a woman or go in women's loos to invade our space,because you are a man X

NeedACleverNN · 03/06/2016 22:46

Also rape threats seem to be the go to threat for some men...

Woman out of place? Better rape her so knows where she ought to be.

buckingfrolicks · 03/06/2016 22:44

That link in the OP ... Suddenly I'm crying. Tears just pinged out reading it. It feels like an attack on women. FUCK this is absolutely terrible.

VestalVirgin · 03/06/2016 22:44

virgin...why? Why would it make people angry

Because they, after thinking about it at length, decided to outlaw the term "clitoris".

I don't think that the female libfems who are most likely responsible for this decision would physically attack me (though they would sure do so verbally) but there are males there, too.

Petal40 · 03/06/2016 22:44

Chickpeas,,,if we accept their label yes.....I refuse it..

HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 03/06/2016 22:43

Just place marking to read the links later.

This is outrageous.

Petal40 · 03/06/2016 22:42

I'm so confused.. Anyone else?

Chickpeasandpakchoi · 03/06/2016 22:41

Because talking about female body parts is now tantamount to transphobia Petal.

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AuntDotsie · 03/06/2016 22:41

They call themselves queerfeminists - anyone know what one of those is?

Petal40 · 03/06/2016 22:38

virgin...why? Why would it make people angry

NeedACleverNN · 03/06/2016 22:38

I'm with you on the gender queer petal Confused

grimbletart · 03/06/2016 22:38

When the Green Party refers to women as "not men" you know that the intellectually challenged have taken over the asylum.

VestalVirgin · 03/06/2016 22:35

Everyone going to that festival ,needs a tee shirt saying. PROUD OWNER OF A CLITORIS .....yay

I'd do it, but I can't afford a bodyguard.

I would not feel safe doing this. Rape threats are a real possibility.

Chickpeasandpakchoi · 03/06/2016 22:35

LaBelle, I agree. I've unfollowed most feminist pages on FB now as their 'feminism' is not one I recognise. It's simpering and apologetic and afraid to offend and has nothing to do with empowering women and fighting the many battles we face.

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AuntDotsie · 03/06/2016 22:35

That website...sheesh.

Lady*Fest offers an opportunity to reclaim and occupy male-dominated spaces - both in theory and practice.

By not being able to name female body parts? Hmm

Oh, and they've introduced me to a new phobia - interphobia. Another one to add to the list there.

Petal40 · 03/06/2016 22:35

Dione u lost me...

DioneTheDiabolist · 03/06/2016 22:33

Queer as in Gender Queer Petal.

WatchMeSoar · 03/06/2016 22:32

Women will only wake up to what is going on if they are aware of what is going on
IME there are very few places on the internet where this issue can be discussed without death or rape threats.

Petal40 · 03/06/2016 22:31

Everyone going to that festival ,needs a tee shirt saying. PROUD OWNER OF A CLITORIS .....yay