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Recovery from sexual harassment in work

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DailyFailAteMyFish · 28/05/2016 09:29

Hi,
Anyone have any books/websites I could read to help recovery from an incident of sexual harassment in work? It was a bit unsavory and has knocked my confidence a bit. I work in a male dominated industry and was on a promotion track. I am so angry with this guy and so angry with myself that a few comments and can have such an impact.

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 18/06/2016 20:08

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Kidnapped · 18/06/2016 20:02

Then clearly there is a problem with your reading comprehension or your intelligence.

You may wish to seek help with that.

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Kidnapped · 18/06/2016 19:52

Absolutely no way to you having to come up with a 'cover story'. Beyond ridiculous. If someone had stolen money from you at work and had a disciplinary and been transferred as a result, how likely is that a manager would ask you (the victim) to come up with a cover story for their transfer? Would never happen but because it is sexual harassment (and consequently even more upsetting for you) and you are a woman then it is partly your responsibility to cover it up? No. Fucking. Way.

Your own manager needs to be fighting for you. You may have to be clear with them about that.

If this other manager asks you again verbally then say "Let me think about it and I'll email you about it". Then email him (copying your own manager) stating "On xxx date, you asked me to come up with a cover story for the man who sexually harassed me at work. Initially I thought that I must have misunderstood. Can you confirm what exactly you want me to do?"

And then if he is a total fool he will email you with ideas of the cover story, thus incriminating himself if you want to go down the grievance/constructive dismissal route. If he has any sense he won't mention it again.

Make your own manager aware that this other manager has asked you to cover up for this harasser.

If anybody else in the company asks anything about the harasser just say that HR have been managing the incident and they can ask HR for details. People will draw their own conclusions.

Are you in a union? Might be worth having an informal chat with a rep if so.

Don't blame you at all for feeling like you want to leave. Your company have exposed you to this harasser, made you work with him after the incident, and asked you to collude in covering it up. They have failed you.

My advice moving forward is to get everything in writing. If you have a verbal conversation with someone then immediately send an email recapping what was said, copying your own manager and others if need be.

I am very sorry that this is happening to you. It is not your fault.

JedRambosteen · 18/06/2016 19:38

Even if you end up leaving, you still did the right thing & I reckon you'll have less of a problem with this kind of crap in the future because the confidence of your "take no shit" stance will go with you. I know I've changed after taking on a bullying arse of a manager in a previous role.

DailyFailAteMyFish · 18/06/2016 17:34

Right, sorry I was quite drunk last night.
From what I can see in the policies there are no clauses that state I am not allowed to speak. It states the disciplinary itself needs to be confidential, but nothing about my complaint.
The danger in a cover story is that the whole thing could be flipped, that the rumour mill could then be that I harassed him or bullied him (as you said up thread Ebearhug).
Frankly I don't think it's in my interests to collude.
This senior manager is a jackass.
I think after all this I may leave the company.

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EBearhug · 18/06/2016 12:18

Yes. It just looks like, if they're giving him a fresh start, they probably want everyone to forget about it. It's not like they're making a show of trying to get him out, and as you say - you're not getting a fresh start. They're looking out for themselves, not you.

DailyFailAteMyFish · 17/06/2016 23:29

I'm not going to broadcast it, but I won't lie.
I think that's ok isn't it.

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EBearhug · 17/06/2016 23:20

Hmm. Take care that they can't stick any harassment on you, when you make sure people are aware of why he's moved.

DailyFailAteMyFish · 17/06/2016 23:05

They want to give him a 'fresh start'. Never mind there is no fresh start for me because my manager and senior manager and head of hr have read his remarks about my arse.
Sigh

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DecaffCoffeeAndRollupsPlease · 17/06/2016 22:51

They want to hide what he has done? I think that's... I don't know, is "systemic sexism" appropriate? How are they acting in the best interests of every woman in the company to just move him with a cover story?

I am glad for you, very very glad that he's being moved. I feared they were going to see if they could let it drag on long enough that you would drop it from the exhaustion of having to push for every thing, so it's a victory that the move is looking likely and secure.

But still, a cover story? Even if they want to give him one, in what way is it your responsibility to either help them create it or to collude with it- they haven't made you sign any confidentiality things have they?

DailyFailAteMyFish · 17/06/2016 22:04

My husband says I should state the re-shuffle is becausw Douchead has been bitten by a radioactive spider... And not at all because of sexual harassment #verydrunk

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EBearhug · 17/06/2016 21:43
Grin
DailyFailAteMyFish · 17/06/2016 21:19

Do not fear.
I have already noted where Douchehead is going and will ensure a confidential chat will be had.

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EBearhug · 17/06/2016 19:51

Well, if Douchehead will be working with any women in his new role, I think I would probably let a rumour circulate that the reshuffle is very definitely to do with sexual harassment and he'll probably be out if there's another report against him.

Though if it's like our place, it's probably quite easy to reshuffle people to a department which has only men.

DailyFailAteMyFish · 17/06/2016 17:54

Loud voice "Douchehead is moving in a re-shuffle, it has nothing to do with his skills or harassment, not at all oh no. As you were."

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 17/06/2016 17:50

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DailyFailAteMyFish · 17/06/2016 17:38

Well, it looks like he should be gone by day next week at the latest. They have secured a new role they think and I have got it confirmed that I no longer assign him work or deal with him.
One manager has asked me to come up with a cover story so it looks like an re-shuffle. The mind boggles.

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DailyFailAteMyFish · 16/06/2016 20:13

Oh I don't blame anyone for not coming forwards. This isn't a great experience, but it's valuable.

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PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 16/06/2016 18:26

Grrr! And if any of these previous victims had just piped up when it was "their turn", he'd be gone by now. Grrr.

DailyFailAteMyFish · 16/06/2016 18:07

Paper trail email has gone out, flurry of activity and there will be a meeting tomorrow with my managers. I don't think it's my managers who are the problem here though. It's the department that needs to find the guy a new role.

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DailyFailAteMyFish · 15/06/2016 22:26

Aww thanks, the support here has been brilliant.
I really don't think they would put him on gardening leave. They only really do that for senior management where I work and we're lowly. I appreciate the suggestion though!
I'll see what tomorrow brings and if not then the carefully prepared, paper trail making email gets sent tomorrow.
Fingers crossed!

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PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 15/06/2016 20:43

Daily and Buffy, you guys rock! I have no practical advice, and you really don't want me to hijack the fred with my own story.

And well done with the telling of the women. If more of us did that, there would be fewer problems.

Kidnapped · 15/06/2016 14:54

It might be in the company's best interests to put him on garden leave while they look to transfer him. If things don't move quickly from today, then you could suggest that.

He may very well use that time to get another job outside the company. If I had a written warning for sexual harassment then I would want to get out before I was chucked out.

And of course the company would be better off without him.

DailyFailAteMyFish · 15/06/2016 13:58

Spoke to my manager informally and they are still working on a plan to move the guy. He is also bugging HR to get him moved and said he would raise it again.

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