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Should the father's employer contribute half of any maternity pay?

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AyeAmarok · 16/05/2016 21:44

Would this work? ls it "fair" that it's the woman's employer who has to take all the financial hit, when it's both parents who chose to have the baby? (meaning they are more likely to be wary of hiring or promoting women).

Making the man's employer contribute as well, could that go some way towards making it equally as "risky" to hire men as women and then it would be less likely to mean that women of childbearing age are discriminated against.

The sharing of the maternity/paternity leave goes some way to address this, but the take-up is still really low, and the pay isn't actually equal so the financial consequences are still not equal on the man and women's employer.

I'm thinking this through in my head and thought I'd float it out on this board and see what you thought? I know there are loads of potential issues that I haven't thought of, probably some really obvious ones!

But could this be a way of stopping women being so unfairly treated when it comes to having a family?

(happy to be told it's a terrible idea!)

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whatdoIget · 16/05/2016 22:11

I like this idea! As you say, it would make hiring men of child bearing age (and surely that could be any age, unlike with women) just as risky for companies. It would put the boot right onto the other foot. Great idea, if only as a thought experiment! Would certainly shake things up and force change I think!!

barnet · 16/05/2016 21:54

No, just do what they do in Norway, 18 months parental leave equally divided between the parents / divided how they want. In practice the mum normally takes the first 9 months and the dad takes the second 9 months. The dad has to take at least 3 months. But other than that they can divided as they like.

AyeAmarok · 16/05/2016 21:52

How are women unfairly treated when it comes to having a baby? They get maternity pay.

Because maternity pay isn't great, if you're lucky you get a few weeks at full pay and a few months at half (then it drops to SMP then nowt)

And from the employer's perspective, they are paying full/half for an employee who isn't there. Because they had to physically have the baby. The man's employer gets off scot-free, even though he is equally responsible for having a baby!

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AyeAmarok · 16/05/2016 21:49

And I thought about the scenario where say the woman is a SAHM, in that case there would be no maternity pay due to the woman, however, the man could then take the option of taking a longer period of paternity leave too if he wanted to, although he wouldn't receive his full pay, just like a woman doesn't, if he wanted to spend some time with his baby. Then only his employer would pay.

I also thought about how the woman may earn a lot more than the man, and so the man's employer would be paying more than they would for a woman in the man's role. But maybe ot could be scaled proportionately.

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expatinscotland · 16/05/2016 21:48

How are women unfairly treated when it comes to having a baby? They get maternity pay.

FirstShinyRobe · 16/05/2016 21:47

Completely unworkable, but I love it as a concept!

mrschatty · 16/05/2016 21:47

Doesn't SMP come from the government anyway? So big companies would just get rid of any enhanced benefits they may offer like 4 months full pay and just offer SMP surely but then I'm cynical!