Ched Evans wins appeal

One of the men she had sex with has stated that in the morning she didn't remember - that surely backs up her account of not remembering.

What the prosecution has quite clearly shown is that the victim, if she did give directions, probably didn't know it was CE.

He did not have a conversation with her, did not know her name and he claims she asked McDonald to perform oral sex on her, McDonald didn't so he did.

I cannot begin to imagine what that woman is feeling right now having to go through all this and have her sexual history recounted in public.

Agreed, which is why I wonder whether the CPS should have asked for a retrial when CE cannot serve a single extra day inside if he is again convicted. I hope they asked her views and I hope they told her what it would involve.

As for people spreading her name from outside the UK on social media - worldwide anonymity is only as good as the law in other countries and the willingness to enforce it. There is no law in England to stop a newspaper here from printing the name of a rape complainant in a trial outside the UK, although in practice they don't.

And there are practical limits. Some years ago there was a rape trial here, I will obviously not name anyone even legally, involving a woman whose family were prominent in a certain town in Ireland, and the local paper there gleefully (and lawfully) reported the lurid details, name and all. Now if you know where to look in London and Liverpool and other cities with a big Irish population there are newsagents who sell a huge range of Irish local newspapers, and there is nobody whose job description includes leafing through the Ballymurphy Gazette on the off-chance that it has printed the name of the complainant in a rape trial in England. The paper went on sale here and it is perfectly possible that there were readers who knew the woman.

If he is found not guilty based on this new evidence they are literally telling all women who have ever had sex not to bother reporting a rape because It won't count. Rape doesnt exist if you ever previously or since consented to sex. I feel sick at the thought of this verdict.

Just finished reading- that is the end of the live evidence. So those of us who were thinking there must be more: Nope. That's it- she's had sex with other men.

Wow. Just wow. The reports of the death of rape myths have been greatly exaggerated. That poor, poor woman. And the hundreds of women who will look at this, think "bugger that" and never, ever report their rapes because they know they are not the "perfect" victim. Horrendous.

Do you think this evidence tells us anything about whether she was raped by a different man, cadno?

Ive just read on Twitter that one of the witness' family members is a friend of the defence. If that is true then this case is a complete joke.

Again, the jury need to decide how much weight to give evidence from a witness that knows the defendant (or the complainant for that matter.) Sounds like if you were a member of the jury, you would discount it completely out of hand - others might not ?

I've argued about rape trials in forums before and people have tried to claim that it's got better and they don't pull apart the victim's sexual history to make a dubious case that she was asking for it any more. Now I know what utter bullshit that is. This line of questioning shouldn't be allowed. They are deliberately trying to make the point that she's slept around before and after because they know it speaks to rape myths and the jury will buy it.

Just finished reading- that is the end of the live evidence. So those of us who were thinking there must be more: Nope. That's it- she's had sex with other men.

Just been catching up, and I feel sick. Utterly sick. The idea that a woman might say go harder to one or two or a million fucking men is enough to some people to say she can't have been raped. It's fucking disgusting.

They may not have that money in their bank accounts at the current time. But I bet they've been promised it.

And yeah "i may have been spiked on Sunday night and attacked. I feel horrible." that sounds like a consenting woman, alright...

I cannot begin to imagine what that woman is feeling right now having to go through all this and have her sexual history recounted in public. CE and his witnesses are scum for putting her through this.

Thanks 111 I thought it was 2 weeks but I wasn't sure.

Ive just read on Twitter that one of the witness' family members is a friend of the defence. If that is true then this case is a complete joke.

The trial started on last Tuesday and is meant to last two weeks. I imagine closing statements tomorrow or Friday then the judges summing up then verdict late Friday if they quick or next Monday/Tuesday.

And i agree with how horrible Steve Brokstein is. Horrible man, constantly being nasty about everything. The male Katie Hopkins.

There are so many different reports, it's a bit confusing at times. How long is left of this trial again? Does anyone know?

"The woman told him: “Long story short, I may have been spiked on Sunday night and attacked. I feel horrible. I don’t even want to go home. Need to see you.”

She added: “You may need to see the police because I’ve slept with you and they need to rule you out of it. Sorry about this. I feel so embarrassed.”

Surely this backs up the prosecution, not the defence? And completely blows the "she was out to nab a footballer or two to make a quick buck" completely out of the water?

And i never knew about the Irish troll mentioned earlier on this thread. Issint it legally world wide anomality so the garda could arrest if they really wanted it.

Ah thanks Marble - will have a read of that one, I've been mostly reading twitter accounts.

Strawberry, according to the mirror updates the prosecution is asking about inconsistent statements, why they didn't raise certain things before etc. I suppose the reports only have snippets of what's being said.

And i hop her and and her family are preparing for safety because the trolls will be out for her and especially them if he is found not guily. ( who probably don't have new ID and therefore traceable especially as her original name has leaked a fair bit). The courts will be busy with all the namers i hope but i bet few get prosecuted

Who are the prosecutors?? Why aren't they asking questions other than those relating to money?

It's not even evidence - it's totally irrelevant.

Sadly I agree. People are stupid. Namely, the people who allowed the retrial based on this bullshit.

I cant see Ched being found guilty the Jury will fall for some of this quite bizarre new evidence.

So he gave a statement in September 2011, but then in December 2015 gave a more detailed and specific statement about what she said during sex 4+ years earlier? After all the publicity about the case? And after the offer of a £50,000 reward was made?