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FFS Sainsbury's, so near and yet so far

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noblegiraffe · 03/04/2016 17:41

Supergirl is one of very few female superheroes. I loved her when I was young and would have loved a Supergirl dressing up outfit. I'd absolutely buy one for my DD.

I do not recall her outfit being pink.

FFS Sainsbury's, so near and yet so far
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RiceCrispieTreats · 06/04/2016 08:31

I find the costume kind of touching: it represents the struggle every little girl, and woman, faces: wanting to be strong in her own right, and wanting to adopt feminine norms in order to fit in and be accepted.

You know - like when little girls say "I want to be a ninja warrior princess!", or grown woman are like "I want to be a hig-powered exec and praised for my beauty!"

It's like a nylon representation of a social struggle, that costume.

MrsHerculePoirot · 05/04/2016 08:57

MrsS1990 I would disagree with you. DD (6) says that she 'even likes black better than pink!'. Lots of her friends don't mind pink as much as she does but when they come for tea none of them ever, ever, choose the pink plate or cup or bowl when they get to choose their coloured plates and cups for eating.

Completely agree there is nothing wrong with pink (personally I am not a fan in general) but this ridiculous pinkification of stuff is ridiculous. I bought DD a red London bus shape sorter thing when she was a baby from ELC - I got told at the till 'hold on I'll get you the girls one' as they had a pink one upstairs - they looked most confused when I was insistent that DD would be perfectly happy with a red bus because you know all the buses (where we live) are red!

PearSoup · 05/04/2016 08:48

I bought the Supergirl outfit from Sainsburys last year. It was definitly red then! How odd and ridiculous.

noblegiraffe · 04/04/2016 13:19

Current TV Supergirl isn't muscley. I'm quite pleased to see that she isn't particularly large of chest either. Comic book heroines tend to have massive boobs.

I suppose that the equivalent of the fake muscles on the boy outfits could be padding up top for the girls.

FFS Sainsbury's, so near and yet so far
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MistressChalk · 04/04/2016 13:09

Actually since Supergirl (and all other superheroines) are now depicted with rippling muscles in comic book art, why don't they add the fake muscles/six pack to her costume?

I feel I'm being deliberately contentious even thinking that Grin

SpeakNoWords · 04/04/2016 12:14

Yes, you're right. They are unnecessary though, I don't buy costumes with them on if I can possibly avoid it.

PalmerViolet · 04/04/2016 12:13

The muscles make it look more like Superman though, the pink less like Supergirl.

Yup.

Which is weird.

noblegiraffe · 04/04/2016 11:56

The muscles make it look more like Superman though, the pink less like Supergirl.

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SpeakNoWords · 04/04/2016 11:52

Well, they do add those fake muscles that you described earlier. Don't know if it makes them more "boy friendly"?

noblegiraffe · 04/04/2016 11:49

Not me, olivia I don't know what that is.

Do they mess around with boy costumes to make them more boy-friendly? Maybe some skulls on the Captain America outfit? No, of course not, because Captain America's actual outfit doesn't have skulls so that would be stupid.

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imwithspud · 04/04/2016 10:49

Yes, dd2 is 10 months old and has very little in the way of hair at the moment, her pushchair is red too. And if she's not wearing obviously girly/pink clothes lots of people assume she's a boy "look at him isn't he lovely" etc. It doesn't bother me and I don't often have the heart to correct people as they're just being nice, but it does really highlight how much influence colours have on us in terms of gender.

exLtEveDallas · 04/04/2016 10:31

The new Supergirl is shaping up to be much 'darker' than I thought. Still not a patch on Flash though.

When I was a kid I remember being irritated that Supergirl was a girl, not a woman and Superman wasn't Superboy. Plus flying around in a skirt? Why didn't she get trousers?

GreenTomatoJam · 04/04/2016 10:21

This is it for me - it's not that there's anything wrong with pink - DS2 is in a pink phase - he has a bright pink t-shirt with a smiling ice cream on it, and when wearing it, everyone assumes he's a girl, not a problem, he doesn't care, I don't care, but that's how strong the colour stuff has got.

DS1 isn't as into pink, but does get a bit disappointed that the costumes that are aimed at him don't have any glitter/metallic like the ones with skirts (and he's old enough now that he doesn't want to wear a skirt - can't blame him, neither do I) - and as a result chose the Captain Phasma, silver stormtrooper costume.

It's not that anything's bad, but, that it would be nice for everyone to have a little of everything rather than this hard line between pink/sparkly/skirt and dark/plain/trousers

imwithspud · 04/04/2016 10:11

I don't dislike pink, DD1 likes pink after all. But like pp I dislike how so many clothes aimed at girls just have to be pink or glittery. I saw a lovely pair of trainers for DD the other day, but the glittery toe cap put me off. Partly because of personal taste, I don't like glitter, and partly because I hate how it's so difficult to find girls clothes that aren't pink/glittery/frilly. I've noticed that the boys section has a much wider variety of colours more often than not, whereas the girls section is mostly pinks, purples, maybe with the odd splash of yellow/blue/red it's frustrating.

There's absolutely no need for them to change the colour of the Supergirl costume, they've already added a frilly skirt. It's pointless.

oliviaclottedcream · 04/04/2016 10:01

Are you the same poster outraged about the Sainsbury's "Girl" bag -- OP?

APotterWithAHappyAtmosphere · 04/04/2016 08:31

I was in Sainsburys the other day and didn't see the Supergirl costume but saw this batgirl costume which apart from a bit of sparkle I thought excellently non-twee.

I also noticed online when looking up said costume that all their generic dressing up stuff is described as "kids" - not boys or girls. E.g. Kids Darth Vader costume, Kids Elsa dress etc.

Creatureofthenight · 04/04/2016 08:16

That is rubbish.
It's supposed to be the costume of a recognised character, why do they have to mess up the colours?

PalmerViolet · 04/04/2016 08:10

Pink isn't an awful colour per se. I'm sure there are human beings who like it well enough. It's the 'pinkification' of everything aimed at girls that gets me. Especially when firms change the established colour of an item to pink.

That's a horrible shade of pink as well.

JassyAlconleigh · 03/04/2016 23:52

They kindly added the fluffy pink netting to remind her of what kind of thoughts she must have.

God forbid she strays into dangerous male territory and starts making her own decisions or forming her own opinions or wanting financial control of her own life.

Sainsbos have only our best interests at heart.

LineyReborn · 03/04/2016 23:47

That just looks shit and wrong.

MrsS1990 · 03/04/2016 23:45

Tick- think most little girls would disagree

pinkyredrose · 03/04/2016 20:49

Won de why it's Supergirl not Superwoman.

PerspicaciaTick · 03/04/2016 20:46

Pink is never prettier.

TeamFinn · 03/04/2016 19:36

Asda sell a Supergirl costume with the red. They also do a Batgirl one which is ace.

noblegiraffe · 03/04/2016 19:34

What's bizarre is that they've got a red Supergirl style swimming costume that pretty much sold out instantly so it's not like there isn't a market for the proper colour.

It's got a frothy skirt to distinguish it from the superman outfit (which has fake muscles) so I just can't fathom why someone actively decided to change the colour. Surely a parent who buys a Supergirl outfit for their DD is looking for something different to the sparkly princess dresses.

I'm actively put off buying this because of the colour. Not because I hate pink (DD wears a lot of pink), but because it's wrong.

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