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Moments of unintended sexism

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guinnessgirl · 24/03/2016 12:30

So I've been a card-carrying, loud and proud feminist for a good ten years now. I grew up not questioning a lot of the everyday hidden sexism in society, but I like to think that I'm now fully aware and 'reformed'.

Imagine, then, my shame at something that occurred this morning. I took my car to Halfords for a small replacement part and paid for it to be fitted too. I was told a colleague was on their way so was waiting patiently, when a young female member of staff appeared in front of me. One second later I realised to my utter horror that I had assumed she was coming to work on the till, and my subconscious mind was waiting for a man Shock

Anyone else had a moment like this where you realise that the sexism ingrained into society is still lurking away in hidden corners of your thinking?

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AyeAmarok · 25/03/2016 23:23

I'm still faintly (pleasantly) surprised when I am on plane and a female voice says "This is your captain speaking"

Oh I love it when this happens! I always think to myself "I'm in good hands". I guess that's sexist too, just the other way.

My moment of shame, as a staunch feminist:

My friend (male) had just started dating a woman and was talking about how she had just moved back in with her parents, but their house was ENORMOUS.

My immediate question was "What did her dad do?

Oh, the shame! DP has never let me forget it.

SockQueen · 25/03/2016 23:10

Long gone are the days where people addressing a female doctor call her "nurse" and ask "Where's the male doctor?"

Sadly, they really aren't.

freshprincess · 24/03/2016 19:34

Talking to DS about his maths homework I said 'so did he tell you how to do it' and he said 'why do you think my maths teacher is a man? #everyday sexism, mum'
I'm a bit Blush my 12 year old pulled me up on it.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 24/03/2016 19:11

Don't think I've ever seen a female security guard. Only female receptionists

I've seen female guards and bouncers. Most gig venues have a mix of sexes.

AlleyCatandRastaMouse · 24/03/2016 18:00

No but everyone who ever phoned me in the UK did. I have an unusual Irish name and work as an engineer, ever single time, 'oh I thought you were a man'.

thatsn0tmyname · 24/03/2016 17:56

MIL seems to have a dim view on women's abilities and kept on about the female captain on last year's cruise. Having watched the news in recent months I would prefer a female pilot or ship's captain.

grimbletart · 24/03/2016 17:49

I'm still faintly (pleasantly) surprised when I am on plane and a female voice says "This is your captain speaking"

NotCitrus · 24/03/2016 17:40

I've just been dealing with the gas company on the phone, and had to speak to at least a dozen people with a wide range of intelligence and competence. Got called by a cheerful woman asking why I hadn't answered the phone and assumed it was their useless helpdesk phoning me back. It was in fact the gas engineer. She hadn't been given my mobile number.

Took me a minute to figure out that when she was talking about where she was, this was because she was the "gas bloke" promised by the company.

London buses did a big recruitment campaign for women drivers a few years back, once they all had power steering and strength wasn't a factor in hiring any more. Now about 1 in 10 drivers is female but I did double-takes for ages.

DaphneWhitethigh · 24/03/2016 17:18

When DS was coming up for his third birthday I was wrapping up his present while he was napping and DD (then 5) was around. She said
"Mummy what are you doing?"
"I'm going up to get some wrapping paper for DS's present"
"Why don't you use this pretty wrapping paper?"
"Oh I can't use that one, it's covered in flowers"
"But DS likes flowers Confused"

I had a sudden moment of clarity and realised, yes of course, DS did really adore flowers and I was a sexist idiot.

HelpfulChap · 24/03/2016 17:14

The head steward in the part of the ground where I watch my football team (it is by far and away the 'liveliest' area) is female.

It is not for the faint hearted but she is very well respected.

Pointlessfan · 24/03/2016 17:12

I was surprised to see a female coach driver recently, just because that's quite a male-dominated career.

MrNoseybonk · 24/03/2016 17:02

Don't think I've ever seen a female security guard.

I've seen quite a few.

Keepithidden · 24/03/2016 15:43

I've been surprised recently at seeing a couple of female road workers and Highway Engineer Foremen (women?).

I think the fact that I register my surprise and subconscious prejudice is a positive. It's a step in the right direction anyway.

0phelia · 24/03/2016 14:40

I'd also be quite surprised to see a female security guard in a shop.
I wouldn't think "Oh no look a woman, this shop is going to be overrun with thieves!"

Don't think I've ever seen a female security guard. Only female receptionists.

0phelia · 24/03/2016 14:37

Your response wasn't sexist necessarily, you didn't think "Oh no a crap girl mechanic is going to mess up my car".

The response would have been likened to an expectation of likelihood.

Long gone are the days where people addressing a female doctor call her "nurse" and ask "Where's the male doctor?".

We are (hopefully) moving away from the days where in a boardroom, the only female executive in the room is asked to go fetch the tea and coffees.

I would have expected a male mechanic, because most mechanics are male.

There are many societal influences at work that prevent women from becoming mechanics, plasterers, plumbers, electricians, many other professions. So it is not surprising to be surprised when you come across females in these professions. Sexism is in the prevention of women entering male dominated professions, and in preventing men entering female dominated professions.

guinnessgirl · 24/03/2016 13:44

Vertigo, no chance! And theydontknow, I was indeed mightily chuffed that she was the mechanic. I don't think I can excuse it by probability though - convenient as that would be Smile

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Theydontknowweknowtheyknow · 24/03/2016 13:36

I wouldn't worry! It was a natural assumption based on statistical probability.

It's the way you act on it that matters. I'm assuming that you didn't make her feel bad by making any comments on her being female or assuming incompetence. In fact I'm guessing you felt a bit happy to see a female mechanic.

VertigoNun · 24/03/2016 12:32

Grin Did you tell her?