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Feminism claims to be about equality and not pro-female, but why no outcry about current Tax law?

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KarenC1983 · 21/03/2016 15:09

The biggest lie I think I've ever heard from a feminist tell me is that feminism nowadays is about equality and not pro female, whether this is a lie they knowingly tell themselves or are just ignorant of their own views remains to be seen.

If feminism is about equality then why has there been no outcry about the fact us women don't pay tax between the ages of 60 and 65, yet men do? If this case was the other way around, feminists would be protesting in the streets and there would be a major outcry for this law to be changed immediately.

This isn't a some petty or minor inequality, this is probably one of the biggest inequalities in modern society, where men lose thousands upon thousands of pounds in tax because of something they can't change, meaning their retirement age is also a lot higher than us females.

Why not outcry? Because when inequality benefits females, the silence from feminist groups is deafening.

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slugseatlettuce · 21/03/2016 16:06

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aginghippy · 21/03/2016 15:53

they are silent when inequality benefits them Who is them?

This anomoly won't benefit me. The state pension age for me is 67. I expect to be working and paying tax and NI until then.

ParrotFashion · 21/03/2016 15:48

"Spouts"
"Us females"
"one of the biggest inequalities in modern society"

Alrighty then...

GreenTomatoJam · 21/03/2016 15:47

gender.stanford.edu/news/2014/why-does-john-get-stem-job-rather-jennifer

Pay gap is not a myth, and can be proven in studies, not just as anecdotes from real life.

As we have said, this disparity in national insurance is a hang-over from when women were excluded from work, and expected to go into a life of domestic servitude to their husbands. It is now being rectified.

OddBoots · 21/03/2016 15:39

Not banned, no. But it does tend to be used by boys and men who feel inadequate, obviously that can't be you though as you are one of 'us females'

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KarenC1983 · 21/03/2016 15:38

The pay gap for the new generation is a complete myth, jobs are advertised with a pay grade, not an amount for different genders, no one is stopping women earn as much as men.

Every feminist I have talked to spouts equality and not pro female but they are silent when inequality benefits them.

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ParrotFashion · 21/03/2016 15:36

Oh do give over OP.

The gvt are in the process of sorting this out, when they do, fine, no one is arguing.

It's not the raison d'etre of feminists to fight for men's rights in one of the few circumstances when things may appear to benefit women over men.

A complete disgrace?

It's a complete disgrace that women still aren't paid as much as men for doing the same jobs. I don't see many men volunteering to take a pay cut to even things out.

Your aggressive tone baffles me.

Are you a woman? Do you vote? Do you enjoy any of the many benefits that the campaign for equal rights has brought women?

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KarenC1983 · 21/03/2016 15:34

Sorry is females a banned word now even though the word is feminism? Have to use the word women?

Using out of date facts and past laws to justify women paying less tax, typical feminists.

Put a lot of women in a very poor situation, paying the same tax men have been for decades?

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GreenTomatoJam · 21/03/2016 15:31

Therefore women born before 5th April 1950 are not required to pay National Insurance Contributions (NICs) once they are 60 or over. Women born between 6th April 1950 and 6th December 1953 will have a State Pension age between 60 and 65 and will cease to pay contributions when they reach State Pension Age.

What you're saying is untrue OP.

And it wasn't women that brought that law in originally, and women campaigned even to be first allowed to work (and thus pay tax) and then to be allowed to work even once they were married (and thus pay tax).

The laws originally were worked around the idea that women wouldn't be allowed to work, and would be kept at home by their husbands doing housework and raising children. Many women don't even qualify for a decent pension because of this, and certainly didn't have a chance of getting a private pension for themselves.

It's now being equalised (albeit with insufficient notice that's going to put lots of women in a very poor situation)

OddBoots · 21/03/2016 15:30

I think you are a little out of date then. Maybe it is because you are searching using 'females' instead of 'women'.

MrNoseybonk · 21/03/2016 15:30

Us females

Hmm I'm skeptical about that.
Anyway, aren't retirement ages being equalised?

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KarenC1983 · 21/03/2016 15:28

State pension age for men is 65, for females it is 60, so men pay national insurance for a full 5 years longer than us females and quite right It should be equalised! why should they pay more

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OddBoots · 21/03/2016 15:26

Have you got a government link source for this? Everything I read says you stop paying once you read state pension age which is in the process of being equalised.

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KarenC1983 · 21/03/2016 15:23

Looks like no one can actually give a valid answer because they know this is a complete disgrace and is bigger than any inequality facing us females in this country.

Why should men have to pay National Insurance for a full 5 years.

Now the government hinted at making it equal and some females are moaning about this. Us females are getting something more than men based on how we were born, yet feminist fought for years to eradicate this?

Like I said, feminists who spout about equality seem to fall very silent when the inequality benefits women. Hypocrites the lot of them

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DoesAnyoneReadTheseThings · 21/03/2016 15:20

Why aren't men protesting in the streets. ....

VertigoNun · 21/03/2016 15:19

Sorry 60.

If you're upset I taje it you are lobbying your MP?

VertigoNun · 21/03/2016 15:18

I am not an annountant nor 55, so didn't know.

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KarenC1983 · 21/03/2016 15:17

By Tax I mean National Insurance

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