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Ghostbusters trailer is out!!

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BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 03/03/2016 14:44

www.facebook.com/Ghostbusters/videos/967382456649089/

Reckon it'll pass the bechdel test?

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Destinysdaughter · 21/07/2016 19:46

Wish we could have a blockbuster type film with feminist super heroes fighting the evil MRAs. Now THAT'S a film I would pay good money to see! 😀👹👻👽

PuertoVallarta · 18/07/2016 20:41

Was dragged along to this and I rather liked it. Great characters and I really like the way the women responded to the villain's Elliot Rogers-style speech. He wasn't a dirty foreigner, but rather a home-grown MRA. Nice change.

Hockeydude · 18/07/2016 13:46

Don't think you can criticise this movie re feminism. I've seen it and Chris Hemsworth's character, Kevin, is portrayed as thick and pretty. Not just a bit thick, but too thick to actually function. He gets (and stays) employed because he is gorgeous.

RufusTheReindeer · 18/07/2016 13:23

Saw this yesterday with the family

Really enjoyed it

Loved all the little nods and i thought the charactors were excellent, i keep thinking of funny bits to tell people

My only criticism was that Chris Hemsworths charactor was a bit too stupid...but very pretty Grin

PlectrumElectrum · 18/07/2016 12:45

I hope it makes enough money to green light another - the ending is set for a sequel & I think the next one will be much better (even though this one was great - I genuinely loved it). This one was very much a 'nod' to the original & establishing the characters/roles but with some genuinely funny comedy too. The 4 main characters were fantastic & I think it would be great to see them develop further. I particularly loved Leslie Jones - I know she's SNL but I hadn't seen her before & I think she's great.

AuntDotsie · 18/07/2016 09:56

I think we are seeing more women-focused film and tv emerging, though. Orphan Black (Tatiana Maslany works hard!), Orange is the New Black, The Good Wife, Fury Road etc.

I personally am so, so utterly bored of Straight White Male protagonist stuff - so much of it is the same old story with different props. I try to make a conscious choice to avoid it where possible. I can't be the only one, so I feel fairly positive about seeing more non-SWM stuff in the future.

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 18/07/2016 06:50

^ doubt it. Bridesmaids made 288 million on a low budget of 32.
That was five years ago. Aside from Pitch Perfect I cannot think of many all female casts since then and this one has three of the same team that made the former.

JedRambosteen · 18/07/2016 06:23

Yep, the studio will be watching the bottom line. If funny women make money, they'll be more inclined to finance more women-led films.

DioneTheDiabolist · 18/07/2016 02:00

Go see it and find out.Grin

JacquettaWoodville · 17/07/2016 20:09

Does it pass the reverse Bechdel, I wonder?!

BeyondBeyondBeyondBeyondBeyond · 17/07/2016 16:57

Oo, good reviews! Might see if I can DL it tonight :)

JedRambosteen · 16/07/2016 18:24

Chris Thor had some good moves in the dance routine during the final credits. I also thought he was an excellent sport for sending himself up as a pretty boy airhead, but I slightly ground my teeth when he got one of those "AND Chris Hemsworth" credits after the 4 women at the end. He didn't do all that much in the film, but I guess he's either got a really shrewd agent or they really wanted him for the film & he wangled it.

JedRambosteen · 16/07/2016 18:22

Saw it today with my 2 sons and DS1's friend. We all properly LOLed in the film, the boys were helpless with laughter in a few places. When we came out DS2 said he much preferred it to the original one because the women were much funnier than the men. They also absolutely loved the Kate McKinnon character and all her crazy tech. I have slight girl crush on her too.

AuntDotsie · 14/07/2016 15:35

I too have seen it. Not girly at all, shopping only hardware-related and no make-up apart from slime. Bloody marvellous, it was, if a little slow to get going. I may have developed a teensy crush on Kate McKinnon Grin

Chris Thor did steal a fair few scenes, to be fair. But the total role reversal, the pretty-but-daft secretary/receptionist and possession tropes, was fascinating and fun.

'Stripper pole!' - HAH!

DioneTheDiabolist · 13/07/2016 23:49

Does it pass the Bechdel Test? It's a movie about women with weapons kicking ghost ass. There are men and they are mentioned, but they are not the focus of this movie. There is no love interest. There is no kissing. It's fast and funny and stylish. Apparently they used some of the sexist responses to the trailer in the scene where they check their You Tube videos.

I loved original Ghostbusters, but I think that this is better.Shock

DioneTheDiabolist · 13/07/2016 23:13

Just watched it. It's AWESOME!GrinGrinGrin

neonrainbow · 12/03/2016 17:18

I thought the trailer showed the insertion of the "stupid black woman who isn't smart enough to be a scientist" was really unnecessary. Why couldn't they just have one of the scientists be cast as a black woman and leave that line out? Or have the street smart woman be white and have two ethnic minority scientists and one white? I think this is a race issue as well as a feminist issue. Perhaps more so a race issue.

ISaySteadyOn · 06/03/2016 07:27

I've done a little bit of reading on this and apparently Patty actually has a PhD in municipal history so she is not uneducated. Hope that is a little reassuring.
Also, apparently all trailers for Paul Feig's films are a bit meh, but he did Bridesmaids and Spy which were both sleeper hits so I am reserving most of my judgment until I see the film.

whattodowiththepoo · 05/03/2016 21:53

Not a good trailer, films looks slow with flat gags and not quite ok CGI.

CheeseHamwich · 05/03/2016 18:43

I was also underwhelmed by the trailer. It just wasn't cut in a suspenseful way and the whole thing with 3 white science ladies + 1 black street smart lady...
I hope it's good though or people will blame it on the all-female cast...

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 05/03/2016 16:39

It looks very girly to me. I cant quantify that, its just a vague "chick-flick" feel. Like "oh we've changed them to female, now they'd better go shopping and do their make up. And giggle coquettishly."

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YriasArgente · 05/03/2016 16:23

It looks to me a little as though they've given everything away in the trailer- I'll see it, loved he originals. My concern is aren't there any new stories to tell? This is a huge risk, they must know it might get panned because of comparison to the originals which might make it harder for films with a mainly female cast to get made. Agree with the racial concerns too, it was my very first thought. Also glad about the plus sized women though, we need more normal looking women on our screens!

femfortheday · 04/03/2016 19:18

Bit disappointed by it so far, especially the gross stereotypes mentioned in the article. But I will probably go and see it anyway, hopefully it's better than it looks.

BonitaFangita · 04/03/2016 18:45

I loved the first Ghostbusters and this looks funny as fxxx Can't wait to see it 😊

HemlockSolanum · 04/03/2016 18:41

I actually am looking forward to it, though I do agree with the criticisms. It seems a shame to push boundaries so hard in one way, but then not both at all when it comes to race.

However I am pleased to see two plus size women as main characters, makes a nice change.

I suspect it's going to be a film with a lot of flaws, but at the same time I want to support it just because if it flops you know the flop will be blamed on the female cast not the racist characterisation.

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