Recording rape culture

Sorry, yes they are. I thought I recognized them from earlier.

Who is muzzling debate? As I said, 8000 posts doesn't sound very muzzled.........

Daisy, why are you so determined to see whatever women write on here that doesn't immediately accord with you as muzzling debate.

No one is muzzling debate on this thread apart from you.

These posts are current today ,published today.
You cannot muzzle debate.That usually is what authority does.

"I will happily comment but posting links is crucial so women can see examples from newspapers.
If this is a PC forum that wants to ignore rape by foreign men on Western women because of their cultural view and if you want to ignore it then shame on you all."

All the links you have posted have been linked to before. Why do you think we are ignoring it? One thread about it went, I think, to 8 sections- that's 8000 posts. And there were plenty of other threads.

Chedwyn

I am not on FB so won't be viewing it.
The thread is titled Recording rape culture.
I will happily comment but posting links is crucial so women can see examples from newspapers.
If this is a PC forum that wants to ignore rape by foreign men on Western women because of their cultural view and if you want to ignore it then shame on you all.
My thoughts on any rapist assaulting a woman is repugnance.

A young relation of mine got a series of unprovoked sexually explicit texts from a man she had met once and was planning to go out with again. When she protested he texted "Stop pretending to be an uptight bitch". Which seems to me to be a classic example of the "you know you want to really" mentality. "Yes means yes and no means maybe"

Really? Wow.

Interestingly, since it turned out that some of the attackers in Koln weren't asylum seekers, a proportion of Twitter chatter which had been supportive of the women stopped and became, as usual, about how women lie about sexual assault and rape.

Couldn't have seen that one coming, no siree.

Spot on, Woman. Where are the Internet searches for the Rotherham victims real names and photos? Where are the people trying to out them for 'tempting' the men involved? Yet that's what the convicted rapist Cheddar Evans' victim and the convicted child abuser Adam Johnson's victim have to live with.

Sickening, isn't it?

I should clarify what I said - obviously people in authority dismissed the grooming victims in Rochdale etc. as 'child prostitutes' at the time, with damaging results (another symptom of rape culture).

However, since the prosecutions and various reports bringing the crimes to light, the public has pretty much universally condemned the men. FB isn't awash with posts demonising the victims in Rochdale and making excuses for the perpetrators.

Daisy, I don't believe rape culture is limites to other countries or other cultures. Rape culture is alive and well in the UK - do a search on FB for 'Adam Johnson' and look at what people are posting about his victim. It's shocking and appalling, the level of vitriol and abuse directed towards a young girl.

Nobody says this sort of thing about the Rotherham grooming victims (or if they have, I haven't seen it), but I guess the difference is that AJ is a popular figure, a talented and good looking footballer, so he can do no wrong.

In actual fact what he did was no different to what the groomers did in Rotherham, Oxford, Rochdale etc... He targeted a child, flattered her, gave her attention, made her feel she owed him, and exploited her sexually. But people are queueing up to defend him and vilify her.

daisy, I know you're new but you seem to be worryingly focused on attacks on Western women by foreign men.

Any chance you can engage with the other posters? What are your thoughts on Adam Johnson?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3476426/German-swimming-pool-two-migrant-sex-attacks-carried-says-forced-segregate-men-women.html

This sadly a result of a rape culture.Western women have fought long and hard for freedom and now this is changing things.

(In fact, i check my TIO waay more often than my inbox! )

Ps, thank you for the message telling me you have responded, though it is unnecessary to notify someone - you can check for recent posts in threads you are on :)

Thank you daisy. But surely the law already says women should go about their business unmolested? I know its not exactly enforced, but thats why "feminism". I think trying to encompass that into a petition is a tad naive? Unless i'm misinterpretting it?

I can't sign a petition that I couldn't explain if someone asked me about it. What sort of "measures?"

www.express.co.uk/news/world/649769/Mob-30-migrants-chase-girls-through-shopping-centre-clashing-police

Have " caught this story" before it slides of the pages.

Basically I think it's to try and get the Authorities to recognise that women must be free to go about their business unmolested,the powers that be are trying to ignore the issue.
I think we should sign in our thousands.

I havent signed it as its a bit vague. What measures do they want brought forward?

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/119385

Can't believe there are only 517 signatures on this!!!!!!!
Please sign for yourselves and all female loved ones.

Headline on an article about Adam Johnson in the Belfast Telegraph today, "A starry lifestyle with many temptations" So the victim was a "temptress" then, not a vulnerable child. The article goes on to discuss the alteration in "football's attitude to sexual misconduct" by comparing a manager who was sacked in 1977 for having an affair with the club physio's wife with Ched Evans being allowed to train at Sheffield United's grounds post conviction. At least the article did refer to him as "convicted rapist Ched Evans".... but still, lumping this rape together with an affair and just calling them both "sexual misconduct" is crass in the extreme.