Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BoysToys

436 replies

SlowFJH · 13/02/2016 11:37

We have two boys and a girl (all now teenagers). My daughter was never into dolls and never really liked pink. She was into arts and crafts and loves knitting and sowing. The boys were completely stereotypical (plastic and wooden swords, guns, cars, diggers and tractors, soldiers etc).

We have good feminist friends (with three boys) who banned violent toys for boys. They always gave us the cat's bum face when they visited ours because their boys used to absolutely love playing with my sons' swords and shields. When we went out it for a walk, every stick they found was a gun - despite their parents vocal disapproval.

My friend's boys (now all strapping teenage lads) joke about how their parents banned them from having the toys they always wanted.

We definitely saw differences in toy preferences very early on. My daughter had zero interest in wheeled toys (despite my efforts) but both boys were fascinated by them virtually from day one.

I know my experience is not scientific. But there were some studies several years ago using baby apes (who obviously had not been conditioned by human systems or been exposed to advertising etc). Baby male apes showed a clear preference for mechanical toys over plush toys.

www.newscientist.com/article/dn13596-male-monkeys-prefer-boys-toys/

I'd love to hear others views on this topic... social conditioning versus biological predispositions.

OP posts:
Lweji · 13/02/2016 12:16

But with a huge overlap, which is very important. :)

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 13/02/2016 12:15

I think there may be a gender thing where more boys are intested in certain toys and more girls are more interested in other types of toys

I agree.

SlowFJH · 13/02/2016 12:09

Whatdolget
Read the New Scientist article. Male apes were more attracted to the mechanical toys than they were to dolls..

OP posts:
Lweji · 13/02/2016 12:05

Wheels come under "things that move and at considerable speed".

WhirlwindHugs · 13/02/2016 12:04

I have two girls and a boy. They all like the same toys and tv shows. These have included power rangers and my little pony etc. They have quite different personalities but all like to dress up as cats or play with our dinosaur toys.

DS shows no interest in craft if he thinks other boys/men are warching but happily does then at home with me.

They know about stereotypes. I really firmly believe that behave however they feel is expected.

whatdoIget · 13/02/2016 12:02

I don't believe that boys can have an innate preference for wheeled toys, simply because wheels haven't been invented for long enough in order for us to evolve in relation to them

SlowFJH · 13/02/2016 12:00

Agree re labelling. I do think that genetics and hormones play a big part. Sometimes you could just tell when testosterone was having an it's impact on both my boys - getting more (playfully) violent in their games, wanting rough and tumble with dad and getting comically competitive. I don't think we saw any of this at all from our daughter.

OP posts:
Lweji · 13/02/2016 11:54

I think there may be a gender thing where more boys are intested in certain toys and more girls are more interested in other types of toys.

BUT I think it's wrong to label them as belonging to each gender, as there is certainly a continuum and labelling prevents members of each gender to embrace toys that aren't labelled as for them, or attracts criticism.

SlowFJH · 13/02/2016 11:50

We were like you Umbongo. We gave our children options but let them go with their own preferences (unlike our friends who were more draconian about what their boys were allowed to play with).

I wouldn't have minded a bit if either of my boys had been into dolls. In fact in my youngest used to play with a baby doll and toy pram.. imagining the pram was a siege catapult to launch the baby at the enemy castleBlush

OP posts:
Lweji · 13/02/2016 11:50

DS has always shown preference for action toys. Wheels, balls, that sort of thing.
He got a baby doll, which he selected, so not imposed, but only found it interesting while it made noises and acted like a baby. As soon as something malfunctioned he lost interest.
Not keen on arts or crafts, but he got a bit into the elastic craze, as did other boys around.
He had shopping and kitchen toys, which he played a bit with, but nothing like with his cars.
OTOH, one nephew was elated to use ds's toy vacuum cleaner when at ours. He's also the most outgoing and athletic of the boys.

A friend has a girl who loves all things "boy" and "girl", whereas my only niece only likes "girl" things. I think it's mostly an identity thing in relation to her older brother.

UmbongoUnchained · 13/02/2016 11:41

I know it's an unpopular opinion here but I definitely believe gender is a thing. My little girl is a total pink princess who loves dolls, glitter and all things fluffy.
This is even though I'm a total Tom boy who loves superheroes and most things "boy", never bought her anything pink until she asked for it and she hasn't had any other input. It's just me and her. She was just born a total girly and I'm absolutely fine with that. If she wants to watch marvel films with me one day that would be awesome, if not then... Barbie it is!