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To thick for feminism?

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fastingmum123 · 18/01/2016 18:58

Ok so to start with I'm interested I believe in equal rights and have been lurking on feminist sites and Twitter feeds for a while. The thing is half the time I feel like i can't be involved as everyone always seems so clever and half the time speak another language with all their turf, cis ect ect talk. If you ask what anything means you get scornful responses telling you to look it up ect and tbh it just puts me off having anything to do with it.

Then there's the other weird side where you get the man haters who are all death to all men and just seem plain crazy. Along with them "man bumped into me said sorry. Sexist bastard" types that just don't make any sense what so ever.

Am I the only one who feels they don't fit in?

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0phelia · 18/01/2016 22:24

Specifically what terminology are you struggling with?
Feel free to post your questions here and I'm sure you'll get a sensible reply.

As for "not fitting in" personally, I just avoid twitterers or tumblr accounts that make me feel that way.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 18/01/2016 22:23

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TheWomanInTheWall · 18/01/2016 22:16

Everyday feminism is quite focused on trans issues. Everyday sexism might be better.

WilLiAmHerschel · 18/01/2016 22:00

Makes sense to me now*

WilLiAmHerschel · 18/01/2016 22:00

I think the mumsnet boards are a good place to come with questions. Although most of the regular posters here are really knowledgeable, they aren't condescending in my opinion.

I know what you mean about feeling too dumb sometimes. I felt like that when I first really started getting into feminism about 3 years ago. It all makes sense to me know although I tend to avoid sites like Everyday Feminism - I think those are the kind of places that give feminism a bad name. I haven't really come across man-haters, though I'm sure some exist. I think they are in the minority and not what feminism is about.

I will try and find some links I think are interesting and share with you. Will post this first as my phone keeps playing up and I've written this three times now!

BeakyMinder · 18/01/2016 20:51

No I'm sure you're not the only one OP.

Feminism means a lot of different things, but amongst other things it's an intellectual movement that moves very, very fast and is always debating and coming up with new ideas. Keeping up with it all is pretty much a full time job. And often seems to mean that feminism = "whatever leftish, PhD-educated women think at the moment".

Personally I love the feminist chat I read on here, and have learnt loads. But I would also like to see a more inclusive feminism that can welcome discussion not expressed in completely up to the minute terms.

TheWomanInTheWall · 18/01/2016 20:30

TERF is sometimes used about women who do not consider themselves radical feminists, or even feminists!

TheWomanInTheWall · 18/01/2016 20:29

Just echoing Palmer.

TERF stands for "trans exclusionary radical feminist" and it is a word used as an insult by some transactivists.

Many trans women and trans men disagree with prominent trans activists.

Cis is a Latin prefix, as is trans. In organic chemistry, cis is used to denote "same side" and trans "opposite side".

So some people use cis to denote those who they consider to have gender identities that are the same as their biological sex. Many others object to being called cis as they do not feel they have a gender identity. Cis is often loosely used to mean a person who is not-trans

PalmerViolet · 18/01/2016 20:01

If you're interested in some of the terminology, then there's a feminism101 site that lots of people link to, if you'd be interested?

I think, if I'm right, the "man bumped into me said sorry, sexist bastard" thing, if it's on Twitter is a parody, and yes, there are a very few feminists who do really seem to hate men. We aren't a hive mind, no matter how much some people would like to paint as such.

If you'd like to know anything, I know that all the regular posters on here would probably be happy to either answer any questions you have, or point you in the direction of the answers. Every so often we discuss asking for a sticky to put useful information into, and this is why.

Feel free to ask away.