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To thick for feminism?

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fastingmum123 · 18/01/2016 18:58

Ok so to start with I'm interested I believe in equal rights and have been lurking on feminist sites and Twitter feeds for a while. The thing is half the time I feel like i can't be involved as everyone always seems so clever and half the time speak another language with all their turf, cis ect ect talk. If you ask what anything means you get scornful responses telling you to look it up ect and tbh it just puts me off having anything to do with it.

Then there's the other weird side where you get the man haters who are all death to all men and just seem plain crazy. Along with them "man bumped into me said sorry. Sexist bastard" types that just don't make any sense what so ever.

Am I the only one who feels they don't fit in?

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 19/01/2016 06:43

Care to expand on that Palmer?

PalmerViolet · 19/01/2016 06:39

Oh dear...

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 19/01/2016 00:50

Yes it was on here.

I like I thought I hated sport because it is serves the political and economic interests of the nation state while contributing to an alienated consciousness on an individual and societal level

Sounds much cleverer than "it's boring innit"

uglyswan · 19/01/2016 00:35

"Was told I only thought I hated sport because I was too conditioned by performing feminity to think otherwise." - Jesus, on this board? I thought I hated sport because it is serves the political and economic interests of the nation state while contributing to an alienated consciousness on an individual and societal level - but that's probably just the conditioning talking.
Hi OP, I'm as thick and un-Phded a manhater as they come - but this is honestly a great board for reading a variety of thought-provoking posts and opinions. Do stay!

TheWomanInTheWall · 19/01/2016 00:25

Not a poster on here thinks you are thick, Lass. So let's not make this thread about you, eh?

almondpudding · 19/01/2016 00:21

Lass, you are not thick and I enjoy your posts.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 19/01/2016 00:18

Oh I'm too thick.

I've been told I don't think about things.

Was told I only thought I hated sport because I was too conditioned by performing feminity to think otherwise.

LieselMeminger · 19/01/2016 00:00

I'm not bright, BTEC is as far as my education goes.
I'm very shy too, I've been told I come across a snobby and up my own arse irl, which I'm not, I'm just painfully shy and nervous until I get to know someone. Which is why I love the feminism section here. It's given me some confidence in myself and the women posting have helped me more than they will ever know.

I don't always agree with everything posted, it takes me so long to type anything that the thread has usually moved on, I worry about being misunderstood and pissing someone off, but mostly I love this part of MN and the posters who have taught me so much without knowing. I probably get more wrong than I get right, but I feel welcome here and posters are helpful if asked.

You're not too thick for feminism, everybody is different and that's one of the things I love about MN. If I can ever help you with anything via pm I'll do my best (like I say I'm not that bright though haha)

fastingmum123 · 18/01/2016 23:27

Thanks everyone will check out some of those websites and maybe the course if I have time between work, learning to drive and looking after the monsters. It just sometimes feels like I can't join in as everyone's really bright, been to uni and can write well written posts.

I'm not really one to fit in anyway even in rl I think people don't know what to make of me! I'm very shy to the point I only really talk to people I know well but ride motorbikes and listen to heavy metal.

Thanks again everyone I'm off to bed now and will check back here in the morning.

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TheWomanInTheWall · 18/01/2016 23:25
TheMouseThatRoared · 18/01/2016 23:23
Smile

I think the sticky idea is good👍

Oswin · 18/01/2016 23:20

Tbh I'm not clever at all. No qualifications at all no gcse, a levels anything. I still feel welcome on this feminist board.
On here if you don't know why something means other posters will explain and I've never seen any body be dicks about it.
I do avoid Twitter feminism though. Terrified me after seeing some uni feminist group being vile about older feminists purely for being gender critical.
I would never say anything on trans issues ect on Twitter.
Twitters weird. It's much nicer here.

PalmerViolet · 18/01/2016 23:14

If it helps, I don't have a PhD either, and I just whiffle on... probably not as coherently as Buffy, but I think I have just as much to offer as anyone else.

I've noticed Lorelei that you have made some really great posts, I often find myself nodding along to things you write.

lorelei9 · 18/01/2016 23:06

Melinda, I have no problem being a feminist IRL but on here, I feel very conscious that I don't have the PhD.

It doesn't really matter, I just thought I'd chime in because I know how the OP feels.

MelindaMay · 18/01/2016 23:06

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PalmerViolet · 18/01/2016 22:57

Buffy might be time to resurrect your intro to feminism sticky idea, maybe?

almondpudding · 18/01/2016 22:55

I would recommend the Stanford women's health and human rights online course.

Even if you don't do any of the free course, signing up gets you access to a board with feminists from all over the world from 13 up, involved in a huge range of projects.

And there's not really any complicated language.

I found it amazing.

It is enrolling now for a late January start.

lagunita.stanford.edu/courses/GlobalHealth/Int.Womens.Health/Jan2016/about

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 18/01/2016 22:53

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TheMouseThatRoared · 18/01/2016 22:40

Oh no! I didn't mean it in a negative way!! Blush

lorelei9 · 18/01/2016 22:39

I feel your pain OP
I read a lot of the threads to try to learn but I can't contribute because there's so much terminology to learn and many posts that go over my head

Then I look it up and find I don't understand the explanation or that there are several and I don't know if any are correct....then there are some that are loaded with historic references and I have to look up those...!

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 18/01/2016 22:38

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TheMouseThatRoared · 18/01/2016 22:35

It's not just you op. I can follow a discussion or whatever until words such as 'epistemology' are mentioned.

WilLiAmHerschel · 18/01/2016 22:29

I should also mention I don't fit in anywhere. I'm the most unsociable person I know and I struggle to make basic conversation. I know what it's like to feel intimidated!

WilLiAmHerschel · 18/01/2016 22:27

newint.org/features/2014/07/01/female-genital-mutilation/ I follow Nimko Ali on Twitter who campaigns to end fgm.

kareningalasmith.com/counting-dead-women/ Karen Ingala Smith. She has a project called Counting Dead Women. Documenting the women killed at hands of male violence.

Http:focuse15.org Focus E15. Group local to me. Started by single mothers who fought against being kicked out of their homes.

www.theguardian.com/profile/june-eric-udorie June Eric Udorie. Recently she campaigned to have more women on the Politics A Level syllabus.

Let Toys be Toys And Let Clothes be Clothes - campaign to get rid of gender stereotyping in toys and clothes and let kids be kids.

Sorry if I'm telling you about people and groups you already know. These are people I admire and find interesting. I find when I get bogged down by the theory sometimes it's nice to see activism in action. It can feel really positive and inspiring to see women actually fighting for their rights, and achieving.