Would anyone be interested in a Feminist critique of The Big Bang Theory?

Why do MRAs always write in that terrible style? Does anyone ever respond well to it? Pray tell.

What evidence do you have of modern western civilisations being patriarchal?

Ha Ha Ha.. . . Best laugh I've had all day.

Aye, I am. Dunno why you are bothering to talk to me at all, with your Big Manly Brain and Articulacy. Tchuh.

I consider you a knobhead with time on his hands trolling the FWR section of MN. Hth.
It's amusing to read your posts in Sheldon's patronising Texas whine though

I suppose ad hominem attacks are all one can afford when they lack the ability to piece together a compelling argument. Indeed, it is much easier to attack the person than to make an attempt at refuting their argument (which you are certainly incapable of doing).

Crosspost with Arkaterre who basically said what I wanted to say

LOL. Your arguments aren't nearly as clever as you think they are, "Exalted". You'd like feminist posters on the feminist board of mumsnet to explain feminism and the notion of patriarchy to you from the beginning, would you? For your entertainment? How very novel and surprising.

I consider you a knobhead with time on his hands trolling the FWR section of MN. Hth.
It's amusing to read your posts in Sheldon's patronising Texas whine though

The robot episode is horridly creepy. Goes too far imo. Yeah, we get it, Howard is a sleaze, don't need to see him with his bits trapped in machinery

Hadn't seen the robot episode, sounds bleugh.

Quite enjoyed stephen merchant's recent scenes with Amy.

Wonder if How I Met Your Mother is any better?

If we say we have no evidence and are making it all up off the top of our fluffy little heads will you fuck off back to whatever Mansplain Island you rowed over from?

ArkATerre; you misunderstand me. I joined this site to engage in rational debate and express my views on a controversial topic while giving due consideration to other modes of thinking. The issue with a site like this is that it attracts people who espouse very similar views and adopt the same ideological standpoint (more or less). You reinforce each others' beliefs without ever encountering challenging opinions; you become comfortable with your opinions because you never have to defend or critically analyse them. Consider me as that opposing point of view which demands logical and well-reasoned explanations.

Thank you Exalted for coming here and putting us right. Where would we be without you?

I've remembered another reason Leonard is shit. When he finds out Penny is earning more than he is in her new job and is actually investing it or whatever, he cannot BELIEVE it and reacts so negatively. It's like she's meant to be his little woman and the moment she has a bit of success, instead of supporting her, he's too busy focusing on how it makes him feel inferior.

I imagine that was a knee-jerk reaction to the idea that Penny will be earning more than him; a cocktail of conflicting emotions allowed his selfish and egotistical side to emerge. However, by the end of the episode, after processing the news fully, he was able to congratulate her with sincerity.

Why did he react in such a despicable manner? Perhaps it is due to the societal expectation for men to be higher earners that their female partners; indeed, Howard is frequently mocked for earning less than Bernadette. He was wrestling with the idea of being considered "less of a man" in the sordid eyes of his friends and society as a whole. This is an unrealistic and flawed expectation that damages both men and women for differing reasons. However, such conflicts exist in the real world; the show simply portrays that reality in a humorous and satirical manner, which is great.

If we say we have no evidence and are making it all up off the top of our fluffy little heads will you fuck off back to whatever Mansplain Island you rowed over from?

You're incredibly hostile about something that appears to be quite a lighthearted subject. And quite hostile to me (and others). You really want us to be wrong. The fact is that arguing with someone like that is exhausting, futile and not pleasant.

This is the essence of discussion, MrsTerryPratchett; when one person offers an opinion, the other can accept it, refute it or request further evidence that can support it. I merely request that you qualify your audacious opinions with some evidence, which you have thus far been unable to produce. If you are unable to convince somebody of something due to insufficient or erroneous evidence; that is your own shortcoming.

Positive stereotypes are damaging. Many people have written many words on the subject. I'm not spending my time and energy on someone who clearly doesn't want to engage with that.

On the contrary, I have asked you to bring forth your arguments for me to consider. Yet you are unable/unwilling to do even that.

And feminism isn't a 'subject' to me. The patriarchy is the sea we all swim in. It would hardly be surprising if a contemporary show about any people had some of that in it.

Once again, you inject a ludicrous opinion to the discussion without a single qualification thereof! What evidence do you have of modern western societies being patriarchal?

I used to watch and enjoy it for what it was, but then I watched the episode where Leonard & Penny were at a restaurant. He dismissed the waitress without looking at her and I thought "ooh, massive red flag, run for the hills Penny!"

I hate the way Howard treats Bernadette, the way Sheldon treats Amy, and how Leonard treats Penny (indeed, how he treats all his girlfriends). I hate that they mock Raj's accent, how possessive he is of his sister, yet the show still makes me laugh. Can't tell how Leonard stacks up against Ross, I've never seen Friends.

Behold a man has arrived to share his...oh I cannot be bothered.

I've remembered another reason Leonard is shit. When he finds out Penny is earning more than he is in her new job and is actually investing it or whatever, he cannot BELIEVE it and reacts so negatively. It's like she's meant to be his little woman and the moment she has a bit of success, instead of supporting her, he's too busy focusing on how it makes him feel inferior.

You're incredibly hostile about something that appears to be quite a lighthearted subject. And quite hostile to me (and others). You really want us to be wrong. The fact is that arguing with someone like that is exhausting, futile and not pleasant.

Positive stereotypes are damaging. Many people have written many words on the subject. I'm not spending my time and energy on someone who clearly doesn't want to engage with that.

And feminism isn't a 'subject' to me. The patriarchy is the sea we all swim in. It would hardly be surprising if a contemporary show about any people had some of that in it.

Anyway, I'm off to get my DD up. While my hungover DH sleeps. Oh, the humanity!

I stopped watching when there was a joke about Howard inventing both a robot girlfriend and a robot prostitute "because there are some things you don't do with a robot girlfriend".

It's a horrible joke which depends on the assumed acceptability of cheating on your girlfriend with a prostitute and the madonna/whore thing of putting your girlfriend on a pedestal but being perfectly happy to abuse that woman over there instead. Plus the creepiness of wanting to build your own compliant robot women in the first place.

Sheldon, is that you?

The way in which your argument disintegrated (with the lightest touch of scrutiny), MrsTerryPratchett, speaks volumes about your superficial understanding of the subject. The problem with only exposing yourself to like-minded people is that it prevents you from coming into contact with opposing views that challenge your preconceptions.

Interesting re the relationship between Penny and Sheldon. It's as if when sex is off the table (so to speak) they can move on with getting to know each other and becoming friends.

Oh no *mrsprattchet" we can't use links. Dear me no. Using other examples no matter how good and well written they are isn't acceptable as they aren't our "own thoughts".

Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

I have formed my own thoughts thank you .

You asked for examples (which means you are having trouble processing the ones already a mentioned on this thread.)

I have you some. Have a go at reading them. You might learn something other than the ability to make snide comments.

Pray tell? Fuck that shit. I just wanted a chat about TBBT not to explain why 'positive' stereotypes to someone hostile to the idea. Happy New Year. Pray tell [http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/oliver-burkemans-blog/2012/dec/12/stereotypes-bad-even-when-good]