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Will true equality ever be achieved?

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bridie69 · 28/12/2015 11:16

By which I mean women are paid the same as men there are the same expectations on men and women re childcare, men are as expected as women to control their fertility, 50% of Parliament/Cabinet/G8 leaders women, women action heroes in media, no more unachievable body shapes in magazines, same prices for MOTs, etc etc. When I look at DD aged 21 I am horrified that many things have actually gone backwards for women. So, can we have hope that things will change anytime soon?

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enderwoman · 28/12/2015 12:20

I think that true equality can not be reached until a few generation of men carrying a baby has passed. Once men carrying babies become the norm, more men will be taking caring duties for elderly relatives and taking part-time jobs. By then I think that society will be forced to respect and pay for caring duties.

VintageDresses · 28/12/2015 12:13

I disagree toast. I think that despite decades of society telling women they should want to contribute more at work and less at home and many believing that when they are young, when dc come along they find they actually want a far more "traditional" role than much of society approves of. They want to be primary carer despite a strong feeling of letting the side down.

It's not that women think the rest isn't worth fighting for, it's that they think their lives would be poorer if it were achieved.

thatstoast · 28/12/2015 11:45

I agree that most women want to be the primary carer but I don't think it's unconnected to societal expectations or circumstances.

I think it's a long way off, unfortunately. I think there's very little incentive for women in the UK to think about equality. I don't think we have it and I want us to achieve it. I think most women think we have 'enough' and the rest isn't worth fighting for.

howtorebuild · 28/12/2015 11:36

women still want to be the primary carer
Agreed.

VintageDresses · 28/12/2015 11:28

No because the majority (majority being 51%+) of women don't want it. Most women still want to be the primary carer. It's nothing to do with other's expectation of them, it's what they want. If the right to chose that goes, then nothing will have been achieved.