Did anyone see that Reggie Yates programme about men and feminism the other day?

I'm watching this now, I feel wrong by saying this I agree with some of what dappa laughs is saying.

Everyone at the moment seems to want freedom of speech until someone says something they disagree with. Where do we draw the line?

(Disclaimer I haven't watched it all yet)

Milo is fabulously gay. According to him

Milo is gay.

I've seen that blond guy do an interview on some programme, I can't remember what it was, and his argument booked down to, he might grow old alone, because women are allowed to be fat and ugly now so he doesn't want them, but the pretty intelligent girls have choices and don't need to rely on men anymore so they don't want him, and it's all feminsim a fault.

I know this isn't the point but I always thought Milo was gay.

They have problems finding gender critical people to appear on telly as well because they are scared of the audience.

I'm not sure that's why.

People who are gender critical are no platformed, lose funding, lose their jobs and are treated to death and sexual violence threats, sometimes even from one or other of the men featured in the programme. Daubney and Milo make a good living slagging off women. Roosh V makes an equally good one advocating rape.

If they thought their reasoning was appropriate Reggie wouldn't have struggled to find people who'd show their face on camera.

They have problems finding gender critical people to appear on telly as well because they are scared of the audience.

Dd just said, it's like a child who needs apples, climbing to the top of the tree to pick apples, and then another child moaning it's not fair and wanting to take their apples away, when they could climb the tree and get their own apples. :)

I was when that blond guy (Milo?) was excusing online rape threats because they weren't meant seriouslyand were just a harmless language used by men when they lose their temper. I mean how are the women receiving them supposed to know if they are meant seriously or not?

I've seen that blond guy do an interview on some programme, I can't remember what it was, and his argument booked down to, he might grow old alone, because women are allowed to be fat and ugly now so he doesn't want them, but the pretty intelligent girls have choices and don't need to rely on men anymore so they don't want him, and it's all feminsim a fault. It wasn't those exact words but that's what I get from him. He might do well to look at himself and how he comes across and it might explain why women are avoiding him.

When he laughed at the rape threats he looked a bit sinister tbh, he said something like it's it's a power thing that men default to in arguments, in a similar to way to how threatening to punch a man in arguments.

I wish Reggie pulled him up on it because A) why threaten to punch a man and rape a woman? Why don't these men threaten to rape the men they disagree with too? Is it because they don't feel men have taken some if thier power away so don't need to exert any, a punch will do, wheras they are angry that women have a little power now and threatening to rape is a way of showing they can still dominate women and put the ones they disagree with back in their place? B) there is no way the women on receiving end know that they have no plans on acting on it, and the men know this, which is exactly why they use it, if it didn't frighten women they wouldn't bother saying it in my opinion. C) why is threatening any violence to women or men who disagree with them even a thing? Woukd they do this in real life and if not, why not?

But Milo more or less confirmed what I thought with his own words, the whole thing is about power and they really don't like women having any. If they thought their reasoning was appropriate Reggie wouldn't have struggled to find people who'd show their face on camera. I suspect people in their lives (esp women) have no idea what these men really think. Was it Germaine Greer who said some women have no idea how much they are hated?

I was when that blond guy (Milo?) was excusing online rape threats because they weren't meant seriouslyand were just a harmless language used by men when they lose their temper. I mean how are the women receiving them supposed to know if they are meant seriously or not?

It's not like rape doesn't happen in real life. The knowledge that are men out there who do rape means that virtual rape threats hold more power over women.

I thought Reggie should have said that but as a man he probably doesn't need to think about that. However I did like the bewildered "no!" he gave when the Roosh guy at the end said "well surely you'd had sex with a woman whilst she's half asleep?!".

Was a pretty common theme actually. "Women have this, men don't, it's not fairrrrrr" I don't think some of the men featured want extra rights for men, they just want women's rights and everything they have achieved taken off them. Or that women should be changing shit for them! They don't like not being in control of women anymore in my opinion.

This is what I felt too. It scares me as I wonder just how many men have this anger and hate towards women. The young boy (josh I think) I found it odd that he had these views at such a young and that he still lived with his mum and dad. It made me wonder what his parent's were like and how his mum felt about it all.

Roosh V is a rape advocate.

Not just an apologist, but he thinks men should rape women because they can.

Watched it last night on Iplayer.
Reggie looked uncomfortable a few times.
Roosh telling a man to get his daughter married young, limit her choices and freedom, can fuck right off, I always knew his dating advice was shit so I don't know why I'm so shocked about his other attitudes. I've read "don't bang Denmark" and the way he spoke about and to women was offensive. He was very angry that women are seen as equal there, earn good money, not impressed by him and he struggled to find any women he fancied, or that would want want to spend time him him, he just vile.

There were some issued raised, things like how rape is treat for men, someone claimed that the total number of men are raped in prison is higher than all women. If this were true(I genuinely don't know) I didn't get the impression he wanted to help raped men, no mention of charities he's involved in etc, he was just angry that women get help. If he put the energy into helping make victims if rape (like women had to) rather than youtube about what women have, he might be able to make a difference.

Was a pretty common theme actually. "Women have this, men don't, it's not fairrrrrr" I don't think some of the men featured want extra rights for men, they just want women's rights and everything they have achieved taken off them. Or that women should be changing shit for them! They don't like not being in control of women anymore in my opinion.

(NAMALT)

I saw it, though it showed me little I did not already know.

Toxic outcasts, poisoned by bitterness, claiming victimhood without examining historical context. Contemptible.

There are structures in our society that damage people of both genders (though typically more damaging to women) and I reject the promotion of hatred as a solution. Hatred can make you powerful, but if it dominates your perspective it cripples you.

That poisonous pick up artist at the beginning was nauseating. I remember the boys like him at school; It was like there was a psychic smell about them, something rancid, that made everyone uncomfortable in their presence. It's irritating that they now have people to validate their corrupted perspectives.

wtf - "you should find her a man to marry early"

watching it now:
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06s5h18/reggie-yates-extreme-uk-2-men-at-war