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"Intercourse/PIV is always rape, plain and simple."

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partialderivative · 03/12/2015 15:46

I was trying to find out what piv sex meant when I came across this blog.

witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/

I was rather taken aback by its premise.

Other quotes include:
...intercourse is NEVER sex for women...
...intercourse is inherently harmful to women and intentionally so...

Is this a commonly held view point amongst feminists? Or just the extreme radical side.

I am not posting this to be goady, if anything quite the opposite.

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novemberchild · 03/12/2015 17:50

Yes, Junosmum, I thought that, too. We are, apparently, simply brainwashed into having sex. We only 'think' we might enjoy it, but we don't really know our own little female minds...

There was I thinking we just had a regular marriage that resulted in pregnancy in the normal way.

Atenco · 03/12/2015 17:43

Duh, I feel very sad for the poster sorry, not the poster, the person who wrote the article.

Junosmum · 03/12/2015 17:33

So a radical feminist doesn't think I know my own mind when it comes to whether I want penetrative sex? Alrighty then!

PurpleTreeFrog · 03/12/2015 17:28

I don't understand how conception is supposed to work without a penis going into a vagina?! Artificial Insemination?

LumelaMme · 03/12/2015 17:27

I'm sorry she finds PIV sex traumatising and violating, but it doesn't have to be that way...

And I call myself a feminist, too.

CallingAllEmergencyKittens · 03/12/2015 17:23

Some human sexual behaviours do indicate a lot of dark times in our evolution, past and current.

WombOfOnesOwn · 03/12/2015 17:21

It seems strange, if the only real purpose of a vagina is the birthing of a baby, that pre-eclampsia occurs in far lower rates in women who have had unprotected intercourse (and therefore semen exposure) with their baby's father for at least six months before conceptionwith regular sex seeming to make more of a difference than sporadic sex. Seems like repeated intercourse is actually the healthiest course for women who would prefer to have an uncomplicated pregnancyI think this woman lacks fundamental knowledge about reproductive biology and I feel bad for her.

MTWTFSS · 03/12/2015 17:19

The Author needs to join MN immediately, so we can tell her to LTB that is fucking her so badly!!! Sex should not be the way she describes!!!

Atenco · 03/12/2015 17:18

I feel very sad for the poster and hate to think what experiences she has had

BuffytheScaryFeministBOO · 03/12/2015 17:17

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IceBeing · 03/12/2015 17:17

In other news we can now get a mouse almost a 5th of the way through gestation in a tank (rather than inside another mouse). So give it another....50?....years and we won't need vaginas for either conception OR birth.

Garlick · 03/12/2015 17:16

how does/did one conceive said baby in the first place??

Well, Crabbit, it is Christmas ...

IceBeing · 03/12/2015 17:14

I'm not sure about full of nuts...I would say:

Welcome to the internet: contains nuts.

Garlick · 03/12/2015 17:14

used to write what were called "cock-shy" minutes

Fantastic! A new word for devil's advocate and straw man, all rolled into one short, somewhat offensive phrase. I love it!

BertrandRussell · 03/12/2015 17:13

"However I stand by my statement that am not trying to be goady"

Right.

Crabbitface · 03/12/2015 17:11

The vagina’s primary function isn’t to be penetrated by a penis but to eject a baby for birth.

With the exception of modern day medical intervention, how does/did one conceive said baby in the first place??

Garlick · 03/12/2015 17:11

I don't see that, Joan. Her description of PIV sounds a bit scary (or appealing, depending on mood & partner) but she didn't say "All the PIV I've done has been like rape". She said all PIV is always rape. She chose to put it that way; she chose to publish. She ain't asking for sympathy about her crap experiences, she's saying she's formed a definite and global opinion.
That opinion is bonkers.

MephistophelesApprentice · 03/12/2015 17:11

This is to feminism what Isis is to Islam.

BertrandRussell · 03/12/2015 17:10

When I was a civil servant back when Whitehall were all fields, there were older Mandarins who used to write what were called "cock-shy" minutes. Oh, how we young whipper snappers laughed!

They were papers proposing extreme action which were intended to be shot down, and in the process generate debate, thought and solutions which may not otherwise have occurred to people. This blog is best regarded in the same light.

ShebaShimmyShake · 03/12/2015 17:09

Welcome to the internet. It's full of nutters.

partialderivative · 03/12/2015 17:08

But Partial, you've been here long enough to know that this isn't a commonly held view,

I admit that I would have been more than a little surprised if reactions had been much different to those posted.

However I stand by my statement that am not trying to be goady

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Stimpack · 03/12/2015 17:08

The blog comments are equally insane.

Garlick · 03/12/2015 17:07

Goes without saying, Bert.

specialsubject · 03/12/2015 17:07

this loon also seems to hate anyone who doesn't share her views, regarding them as contemptible. So closed mind as well as lack of basic biological knowledge. George Orwell postulated a world where sex would be regarded as 'a slightly disgusting minor operation'. She may have read that.

don't want sex? Fine, don't have it. Plenty of other hobbies out there.

I doubt anyone except the author thinks she represents feminists.

JoanFerguson · 03/12/2015 17:04

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