Are you a big fat cissexist?

I thought it was a big massive piss take.

No?

XX and XY chromosome pairs do mean something: a general idea of future conditions a person may or may not develop that are directly due to those chromosomal pairings.

A general idea? Or a near 100 % certainty?? Assuming those conditions that may or may not develop are menstrustion, breast growth/facial hair, change of voice pitch?

Well. I think that boys have a penis and girls have a vagina - tick. I have never wondered why there are no tampons in the gents - tick. I have showed people pictures of my babies, hell, I even have some on the wall right now! - tick. I think that women are the group of people who might need an abortion, a cervical smear or a antenatal scan - tick. And I didn't click on the link. So yes, I'm a massive cissexist.

(In my defence, I do know the difference between science and maths, I do think all people should have counselling rather than making cosmetic changes to healthy bodies, I'm not massively bothered if someone mistakes me for a man from the back, I have no idea what pronoun proclamation is but I'm pretty sure I haven't forced it on people, and I sure as fuck don't have a 'dear little heart'. Perhaps there's hope for me).

It would have been better if the writer had taken his own advice at #19! Re expecting Trans people to educate others about Trans people.

Now, to be fair, XX and XY chromosome pairs do mean something: a general idea of future conditions a person may or may not develop that are directly due to those chromosomal pairings.

They do not, however, concretely stand for any of the following: indicating a person’s intelligence, physical abilities, sexual orientation, development during puberty, appearance or make of genitals, or what level of bodily production of which sex hormones.

Ignoring the physiological stuff in the
Iist, this sounded a bit like it was an allusion to male and female brains to me. In a 'Honey pie, did you know that it is possible to get a female brain in a male body?' kind of way. I am feeling a bit sensitive to this topic after a recent online discussion with a transman who insisted they had been born with a male brain and a female body, with some pretty sexist reasoning, so I may be drawing conclusions that aren't there.

This bit annoyed me (more than other bits...):

I love you, but shut the hell up.

We’re talking about trans people right now, not cis people.

You don't love me, you don't even know me and this is supposed to be a feminist website so forgive me for wanting to talk about women.

That article's really interesting Floris - some of my gay friends have also expressed concern about the treatment of young gay teens by the trans community so it's obviously not a unique concern.

Interesting to read about how the history of Stonewall was twisted... Sounds rather familiar

Never mind the content, he's grammatically confused. It's a list of bad cissexist things and then it includes being profiled as a sex worker. I was trying to work out why on earth it made you cissexist to be profiled then I realised he really does write that badly. Not holding out much hope for the novel...

What a load of shite.

The 'honey' is unbelievable. On a 'feminist' website!? Ditto the patronising tone.

Although maybe I deserve to be patronised because I found the baby photos bit and the male tampons bit rather confusing.

Actually, since stores successfully resisted any pressure to sell clothes for short women, or fat women, or women with big breasts, etc., I don't think they will change just because of this article.

Although the trans might actually be able to put political pressure on the stores. Because unlike women, men matter.

So topshop should start selling women's clothes cut to a male physique? Fashion shops barely carry higher than a size 16 because there isn't the demand for them, they should carry differently cut clothes in a range of sizes that barely any fucker wants to buy, at great financial loss, to make trans women feel better?

to make trans women feel better

Answered that for you.

And that's not such a bad thing, I don't know anyone that wishes harm or pain on Mtf trans* people, but I'm not 100% sure Top Shop and the like are going to fall into line the way women have been forced into doing, just because someone has a public tantrum on the internet.

Stores Having ‘Men’s’ or ‘Women’s’ Clothes That Only Fit Specific Body Types

So topshop should start selling women's clothes cut to a male physique? Fashion shops barely carry higher than a size 16 because there isn't the demand for them, they should carry differently cut clothes in a range of sizes that barely any fucker wants to buy, at great financial loss, to make trans women feel better?

6. Never Wondering Why Tampons Aren’t in Men’s Restrooms

Huh?

believing that xx and xy actually mean something

Fuck yeah they mean something! They don't mean anything to do with pink and blue but they fucking mean something

I don't get what's wrong with showing off baby photos

PMSL (in a bleak way) at the final comment: "Just because you've done cissexist things, doesn't make you an inherently bad person." Well, thanks for that. Very big of you not to class nearly the whole of humanity me as "inherently bad."

On another note, and maybe it's already been mentioned here, but has anyone seen this insightful interview with the guy who has set up the petition to drop the "T" from LBGT?
thefederalist.com/2015/11/09/exclusive-gay-man-explains-his-petition-to-drop-the-t-in-lgbt/

Was this entire site written by a teenager who has possibly just received a dictionary as a present? It doesn't exactly read as though the writer is very mature.

PlaysWell

Hell yes!!

I can't take away the pain that some transwomen seem to feel as a result of -

being physically different to biological women
not menstruating
never giving birth
never experiencing childhood as a girl
having male bodies etc etc

None of that is my fault and wishing that I and other feminists pretend that these difference don't exist, isn't going to erase that pain. Maybe loving, cherishing and respecting them as transwomen would go someway towards helping with that pain. Maybe creating additional support and space for them in society in their own right as transwomen would help to ease that pain. Maybe focusing on the men who attack, ridicule and ignore them would help ease that pain.

Discriminating against transwomen is 'cissexist'. Simply believing that they are different but equal isn't.

Do you know what?

I wish we could go back to feminism.

I am sick to the back teeth with this constant centering of men, and men's needs, and men's mental health masquerading as feminist thinking. It's not.

And someone needs to go and sit that writer down and explain that, while they might not like science, it's not going to change because they close their eyes and wish it the fuck away.

I have every sympathy and the greatest respect for men who have the truly debilitating MH problem of sex dysphoria and the awful dysmorphia that goes with it, but feminism is about women. Not men.

I gave up at 'Not Noticing When Personal Information Forms Have Only ‘Male’ or ‘Female’ as Options'.

FFS. Ridiculous.

That article just makes no sense. Especially number 1. I really cannot get my head around the thinking behind it. So essentially that person thinks that sex and gender are basically the same thing, but then your biological sex doesn't constrain you in anyway as to what you do or like. But then that gender does define you in some way, and you can change gender and there are many genders. Im genuinely confused.

I have no idea, and I don't actually care

FFS.
I no other aspect of my life have I ever encountered 'cis-women' or otherwise - and I work with transgendered people.
Cissexism (is that a thing now?!) is not something I can afford to invest any strength on just now.
Meh, indeed.

I couldn't get into the swing of that article at all. It was oddly lacking in content or explanation for an article aimed at educating people and really, really patronising all at once. Quite a feat to pull off in such a short article.