do i need to say lighthearted here?

I come out as radical/environmental

I do own six pairs of docs :)
none of them the vegan ones though

Hmm, I came out liberal feminist at 42, then cultural feminist and women of Color both 38; then rad fem 37 etc

I actually had to look up what a cultural feminist is. I need to read a bit more and reflect on this. If it means women have different needs than what is currently seen as the (male) norm, then yes, but I am not sure that is what it does mean

@what: To be fair, that was probably because East Germany was rather isolated and they didn't have trade connections to countries that sold bananas. Many of the things that were bad about living in East Germany were due to it boycotting capitalist states.

@Elendon: Responsible capitalism being the kind of capitalism that is controlled by the government? Because I must say, I don't really believe in capitalism regulating itself.

Well I believe in responsible capitalism and I'm certainly not a lib fem type.

I used to make angel cakes and to do this you had cake wings on the side of the top of the bun, with a dash of cream down the middle. I always put a cherry at the top too. Don't worry, my daughters loved doing this. Those little cakes were things of beauty!

So no banana bread in the East? Another shining win for capitalism

@what: If I look at Germany, I have to say, women in the East did have some things better than in the West - like childcare, and there are still more female bosses than in the West.

That said, they didn't have bananas there.

Cupcakes have all gone, I'm afraid.

Will the banana bread I'm baking do?

I'm a liberal feminist. I am a feminist, but I am not anti-capitalism. I think capitalism has done far more for women on a practical level than socialism and women in the west are far healthier, wealthier and have greater self determination than women in socialist countries.

Sorry, not light hearted, but a poster earlier was interested in us lib fem types. Now, can I have a vulva cupcake?

Pepper: Congratulations!

How much did you score?

I'm a radical

I don't even know what that is!

Oh god, 3 children under 5 - I'm physically hunched over the way that men do when you mention getting a blow to the penis..

This wifework thing as a source of contempt is hard, because, I just don't want to do it. I don't exactly think it's beneath me, I just really, really don't like it (my sister and her partner do, they are uber-neat the both of them). Yet someone has to.

My MIL comes over on Fridays, cleans the kitchen and does folding and ironing (I would never iron anything) - I've told her that as much as it's appreciated, she doesn't have to do this, and yet she does (she's lovely, it's not a controlling thing.. well.. it is a little bit, but only in an adorable, kindly meant way) - DP doesn't feel ashamed at all, but I run around like a headless chicken in the morning before work so she doesn't think we're complete slobs.

Mine makes no sense either, but what I want to say is, that after the recent salary thread, I'm even more wound up that no economic value is put on women staying at home (even though, if they did, then that value would almost certainly boost us up above men in the earning stakes - the nannying alone is more than the average salary, let alone the cleaning and PAing)

@VestalVirgin, I think I must have fallen for the current lack of value put on child rearing, which was women's work and and is now less than work.

I really think that we have lost something, a definite lack of respect for domestic skills, wife work has become a source of contempt.

We (I) felt it was beneath us and we wanted to do what the men were doing, and so often we are, but we are also doing the other stuff at the same time and it's not seen as having any worth.
I sat with a friend tonight whilst she cried, (she's on mat leave) three children under school age, and her husband feels that as he is working full time and getting up with the two older ones she should be doing more.

Unless she's earning hard cash what she does has no value.

This probably makes no sense.

Lol @ TeiTetua.
Because North Korea is the perfect example of totalitarianist dictatorship and has nothing to do with socialism!

bertrand I did that test Seneca linked to

Highest was liberal feminist, second highest woman of colour. I can't quite remember but I think rad fem was 4th on the list.

I was referring to paid work ... didn't want to imply that unpaid housework is not work. (Maybe I should have written "wage-slavery" ...)

@BertrandRussell: Wait, aren't radical feminists for liberation from oppression rather than equality?
I remember reading some piece about how being equal to men is no good because the patriarchal system is messed up, and doing the things men do (like working 12 hours a day, seven days a week) is not something women should aim to imitate.

Though I suppose one could say that radical feminists want to change the world for the better, and then want equality in that better world.

I thought I was a radical feminist and that test confirmed it. Are there any cupcakes left?

Arf, MrsTP!

See, we have almost asuch fun as gay men, with their fairy cajes, and their log rolls...

Maybe deviating from the light-hearted here, but for those who lean towards socialism, here's an illustration of it in action. I actually think it's funny as hell.
Radical feminists, every one of 'em.

"The second would be - if pushed on what does it mean for me to be a feminist, I would probably just say - equality."

So how do you know you're a liberal feminist? Because I could say the same (I wouldn't- because I never use one word where a paragraph would do) but I'm a radical feminist. You might be too........

Goodness no. Choc-clit cake.

Red vulvet cake?

Cheers PSE it was good thanks. There was so that's a win.

bertrand

Sorry, bit defensive there. I guess I would have two answers. The first would be that a don't really bother defining myself.
The second would be - if pushed on what does it mean for me to be a feminist, I would probably just say - equality.

Well, I think you're funny, MrsTP.

And old. How was your birthday?