Is this parody? I hope it is. (Reproductive rights for people with testicles. What?)

Reading the article again (I think I just killed LOADS of brain cells!), I noticed the 'most popular' articles in the side bar. One of which includes the line:
"In short: Cultural appropriation is when somebody adopts aspects of a culture that’s not their own."
Hey, go READ that one people! And stop appropriating FEMALE culture by calling your ejaculation a trans pregnancy................

I've never read this supposed magazine before, and if I'd read this as supposed everyday feminism when I was a youngster, I'd never have gone anywhere near it. I'm SO glad I'm old enough to have surfed the second wave, rather than the blatantly stupid nonsense being peddled as feminism nowadays.

"I can’t have babies. And no one in the reproductive justice movement is talking about this."
If you talk about sterilizing kids identified as trans (since puberty blockers and then going onto cross-sex hormones means whatever gametes you DO have won't necessarily mature), then you can get labelled as transphobic. Reproductive Justice Warriors supposedly AREN'T talking about the sterilization of people who aren't really adult enough to make that decision, and seems the author of the article wasn't mature enough either since they failed to understand basic biology and what cross-sex hormones DO.

As regards the surrogacy route, I'm sad to say that this isn't the only example - the 'famous' transkid Jazz Jennings has said:

"But since my sister has my same DNA, I'm convincing her to carry the baby for me."

www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/tv/a40068/jazz-jennings-internets-most-fascinating/

"It sounds like they want to get themselves pregnant with their own sperm?!"
Actually there WAS a rather good Sci-Fi short-story involving surgery and a time machine ("All You Zombies" by Robert Heinlein 1958), where the one character was both father and mother to themselves! So not even a NOVEL idea..................Is sperm freezing the modern equivalent of a reproductive justice warriors time machine? I never dreamt when I read that story many years ago that I'd ever be in a situation where someone seriously wanted to DO that!

It's been going around in my head a bit, but I'm fairly sure, that I don't like the idea of a 'Reproductive Justice' movement. Sounds a little bit... draconian or something.

Reproductive rights I'm all behind, but I associate this more with the right not to be pregnant, or to be allowed to choose whether I continue a pregnancy, rather than the idea that I have a right to be pregnant.

I feel uncomfortable really with the idea that anyone has the right to be pregnant or have children - it feels like a small step from there, to demanding that because I have a working womb, I should be enabling other people to exercise their right a baby by using it (and so surrendering my right not to)

I was reading about womb transplants the other day - can't remember where (may have been a link from here or on Reddit). Apparently they would be single-use so you have a section and hysterectomy at the same time, and presumably rinse and repeat if you want another baby.

Totally agree with PP that it's all a bit Life of Brian. Also, that poetry is toe-curlingly bad.

I'd like a womb transplant, mines an absolute arse. Just like I know many women would like, but are refused, HRT. And don't even get me started on contraception and abortion availability in other countries.
But yeah, we should totally put trans needs first

I can't see how a male person could have a womb transplant, given al the other bits that a womb is attached to. Plus they have to take mega medication while the womb is in situ and I don't know how that would interact with hrt

With the recent developments in womb transplants I guess it's only a matter of time before a transwoman gets one, along with some pelvic modifications and ancillary tweaking.

I just re-read that and wondered if it came over as if I was having a go at people here, apologies, that wasn't the intention

By contrast with the parade of adolescent hurt feelings and outright fantasy that Luna displays (which I agree suggests that they need counselling rather than a platform), we could reflect on the fact that 47,000 women per year worldwide still die from unsafe abortion (from the WHO). I don't imagine those women or their families get much in the way of reproductive justice either. Still, though, by all means let's recentre the debate away from those boring old stats.

And what chunkypickle said.

I only came on here to link the Life of Brian clip and then found it had already been done. Gah.

I felt like freshwaterselfie when I first read this.

At the end of my last post I wrote "in a few years it will be argued that not everyone who gives birth is female" and then I deleted it because I realised that many people already argue that already. Women are already being pushed aside in changes of literature surround childbirth etc.

Luna doesn't mention Transmen at all, or their reproductive rights, they seem to think that menstration and contraceptive pill are things for "real women" and part if me wonders if it's because they somewhere deep down, they view transmen as female still, while also insisting they are female.

Not sure I'm explaining myself well, I'd have thought that they would want all trans people centered because by their own ideology, transmen are male just like other males, and we should maybe discuss how a transmen are not impregnating their girlfriends, just like how transwomen are not getting pregnant, Luna just seems to be all about Lunas wants, and fuck women everyone else.

I do think that, without straying as far as correctional therapy, counselling is very, very clearly needed.

If I presented at the doctors saying I was pregnant, and persisted in the believe even when I definitely wasn't, then I would be sensitively steered towards some mental health care - really that's what needs to happen here. Instead, this person's HCPs and society at large seems to be supporting their obvious delusions.

Possibly, yes - but I imagine infertile women who work with surrogates sometimes feel like that too.

It all just sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Assuming a TW manages to save their sperm and finds a woman to have a baby for them, aren't they going to spend the pregnancy racked with jealousy and pain because the baby's not inside them?

Selfish, self absorbed and very young aren't mutually exclusive!

I just remember that when I was 17 I would have thought "oh, if people can't have a baby, they adopt" - a good friend was adopted - without knowing anything about numbers and process.

I do think Luna's doctor/parents/carers/counsellors should be telling Luna all these stats or referring Luna to a transgender youth information service or something.

Agree with Plays.

If you read the article I posted a bit upthread about the transgender "working mother of the year", that is what the logical conclusion is, get a woman to carry the baby as a surrogate and erase them from the picture completely. Because the real mother (the wife) isn't considered important enough to mention in that Salon article.

No, OneMore, I think they're selfish. And self absorbed. And colluding in the delusions of a seriously mentally ill person.

I wonder if all the commenters are quite young and therefore don't realise that adoption is not an on demand service and a tiny number of "baby, not within family" adoptions occur

You know, when I first read this last night, I laughed at it, because it was all just so People's Front of Judea.

I re-read it this morning and actually, now it chills me. The cold misogyny. The blatant stupidity ("telescope images" of sperm? What, they're in space?). The co-opting of women's fight to be able to control their fertility (yeah, yeah, enough about your fight not to have babies for a minute, let's talk about my infinitely more important right to have them!). The complete obliteration of women from the picture, when part of the story clearly centres around surrogacy.

I want to shake the self-absorbed little twerp and tell them to grow up. The lack of empathy is terrifying, the whole article is a narcissistic howl of rage about how it's just not faaaaaaaaiiiiiiiirrrrrrrr!!

What is the "reproductive justice" movement anyway? I've never heard it called that. Is this a rebranding? As a feminist, I've always campaigned for reproductive rights, which "center", as is correct, around the seemingly laughably old-fashioned concept that the people who need those rights the most are the ones with the relevant biology.

Everyday feminism is just so weird.

According to google, around 4m babies are born in the us annually and around 140,000 adoptions.

How are they squaring this?

For fuck's sake.

Words mean things. Pregnancy MEANS a specific thing, and it's not "producing sperm".

Freezing gametes is possible for those who are concerned that the medical procedure they are about to undergo will remove that bodily function.

In some cases, in UK, it is funded by NHS.

I thought OP was in US (references to insurance plans).

Unfortunately, not all plans cover all procedures.

So what are they campaigning for? Cheaper health insurance? Obamacare?