Becky Watts murder

How is there a legal basis for convicting someone of manslaughter when she wasn't actually there during the murder? (It would be different if she had hired the murderer, but that is obviously not the case)
Sure, she should be charged with perverting the course of justice, but manslaughter? That seems a bit off.

That reminds me of the problem that women's prisons frequently lack proper therapy opportunities. Most female offenders are in need of therapy, because of trauma, drug problems, etc., but because there are so few of them, all the resocialisation efforts concentrate on males.

So, we have a woman who got into a relationship with a murderer at age 15 and might not get decent therapy in prison.

she was convicted of manslaughter on the basis she wasn't actually there at the time of the murder. So essentially an accessory.

If you compare her to say, maxine Carr, she wasn't there either but merely perverted the course of justice by providing a false alibi whereas Hoar was texting him about murder and hiding bodies and the equipment to dismember the body was bought in her name.

So yep, I am quite comfortable with the idea of her being a monster. Evil bitch, hope they both wrot in hell.

Hoare looks at the cameras whilst being questioned, Matthews bows his head. But surely we must consider the wider implications here.

What on earth is the relevance of that?

I'm a lawyer - albeit not a criminal one - if there was any mileage in arguing in mitigation that SH was or had been abused, then her solicitors would have done that

Problem for her is that her defence always was that she didn't have a clue what was going on so her relationship with her partner was irrelevant

Are you supportive of poor downtrodden Myra Hindley and Rose West too op? The men in their lives were abusers.
Face it, women can be as despicable as men.

You'd have to be a 'monster' (hate that choice of word) to be party to that.

she's not a victim. Whether she was in a relationship with him at fifteen is irrelevant, she's not fifteen any more, she's an adult capable of making her own decisions and knowing right from wrong.

Sick of women being excused of all manner of awful crimes on the basis they must have been victims and under the control of the evil man. poor loves.

It does look like she was vulnerable and groomed. As I said previously we will never know, we just go on information given to us.

Doesn't sound like you know anything about the case.

She was there in the house when Becky was killed. They had swapped text messages in the run-up to the murder about kidnapping teenage girls which she claimed was just 'banter' to keep him happy.

While Becky was lying dead in the bathroom in their house she looked up the Frozen parody 'Do you want to hide a body' on her phone which she claimed was just an unfortunate coincidence.

They both have unfortunate childhoods - but so do lots of other people. Doesn't excuse kidnap, murder, dismemberment.

We only get snippets the press chose to share, the police collect evidence, the barrister presents, the jury decide. Nobody other than three people know what went on and one I hope is resting in peace.

She looked pregnant and they had a toddler.

Sillybilly said it all, really.

Becky was killed in the family home not in woods. Shauna has been convicted because no one believes that she didn't know what was going on as she was in the house when it happened, in the house she shared with Matthews when he dismembered her body, with him when he bought all kinds of paraphernalia used to wrap the parts of her body and her name was on the order for the stun guns.

It's not really known which of the pair was most abusive, I don't think. Rose West was considered to be the submissive wife for quite some time wasn't she?

Have you read the article? What you are writing and what the article says are completely different.

She was involved in the murder (indirectly perhaps?), dismemberment and cover - up. She deserves to be convicted.

She not only conspired with him to kidnap her but then assisted him in dismembering and hiding her body.

I would say that's reason enough to be considered an associate to a murderer regardless of whether he was controlling her or not.