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Germaine Greer

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IamTheWhoreofBabylon · 23/10/2015 22:57

i never post here but I'm watching Germaine Greer on newsnight
Crazy, the woman is not allowed to discuss feminist issues without being forced to discuss transgender issues
Disclaimer- I really like GG
Am I reading this correctly? Why does she have to fight for a different groups issues

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FloraFox · 25/10/2015 22:17

vulcan if you think there are female and male brains, you could use some education.

There is no similarity with gay conversion therapy. That is irrelevant and appropriative.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 25/10/2015 22:17

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slugseatlettuce · 25/10/2015 22:09

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grumpyuncleR · 25/10/2015 22:06

Ubik, that Nick Cohen article appears to be from 7th Feb 2015-
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/07/censorship-campus-no-way-fight-fanatics

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 25/10/2015 22:06

I haven't read the full thread, but Stavvers is the internet equivalent of Foul Ole Ron, just replace everything she says with 'Millennium Hand and Shrimp'. It makes as much sense, but is less aggravating.

VulcanWoman · 25/10/2015 22:05

I can't quite believe what I'm reading, "they need help to come to terms with what body they have", didn't they used to try that with someone that was gay, well they still do. Unbelievable. I think you need to educate yourself in the matter them maybe you'd have some empathy and understanding.

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QueenLaBeefah · 25/10/2015 22:03

There is no such thing as male or female brains.

PlaysWellWithOthers · 25/10/2015 22:00

There are male and female bodies, but there's no such beast as a male or female brain!

And it's really distasteful to bring intersex people into this, given that most intersex groups have asked that they are kept out of it. They have enough to deal with without being used as poster people for trans*ideology, don't you think?

Anyway, intersex is a biological thing, not a brain thing.

Postino · 25/10/2015 21:59

But if we didn't have gender stereotyping, then someone with the opposite sex's brain (?) could express themselves however they wished, and might be comfortable keeping the body they've got.

almondpudding · 25/10/2015 21:58

There are not male and female brains in terms of functions.

You can't look at a brain and know what sex or gender it is.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 25/10/2015 21:57

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VulcanWoman · 25/10/2015 21:55

There are male and female brains, with a combination in between, it makes perfect sense to me that a foetus could developed with all sorts of variations. People are born intersex, why not female brain in a male body or the other way around.

WindyMillersProbationOfficer · 25/10/2015 21:42

Intersectional feminism - a hugely important and necessary concept - has become, in internet social justice circles anyway, a horrendously bastardised concept that no longer means 'remember that women of colour/lesbians/disabled women/poor women/etc deal with compounding oppressions', but instead means 'this white man is allowed to call you a cunt because he wears nail varnish sometimes.' I despair.

welshHairs · 25/10/2015 21:39

I don't think all transwomen go OTT with make up etc to be fair. I know it seems common but I think that's partly because they have to try harder to be feminine than a born woman does in order to 'pass' (if that's the correct terminology) and probably also to prove their womanliness. I do find Caitlyn J attention seeking but I don't think she stands for all transwomen.

southeastastra · 25/10/2015 21:29

i find it silly that men who want to be women always go over the top with make up like all women are like that

i find it hard to see bruce jenner as anything rather than bruce 'can't stop the music' jenner. why would he live a lie for so long?

it's all pathetic and attention seeking on his part

IKnowIAmButWhatAreYou · 25/10/2015 21:27

Wholeheartedly agree...

FloraFox · 25/10/2015 21:26

I agree that the mind doesn't get put in a body. If people struggle to accept their body, perhaps they should have help coming to terms with that rather than taking drastic steps to change the body.

abbieanders · 25/10/2015 21:25

Is that like girls who can do sums while having ovaries?

whatdoIget · 25/10/2015 21:20

The mind and body are a package. The mind doesn't get put into the body. It doesn't make sense to say it's possible for mind and body not to match.

VulcanWoman · 25/10/2015 21:14

The mind doesn't match the body. What is a person, a body or a mind.

SoftDriftedSnow · 25/10/2015 21:10

How do you get born in the wrong body? As I said on another thread, there aren't boy and girl cherubs floating about waiting for a sperm to meet an egg.

Postino · 25/10/2015 21:10

I have such high respect for GG, not least that she keeps going despite us making a lot less progress than she must've anticipated.

Not going near twitter, that sort of stuff bothers me for days afterwards.

southeastastra · 25/10/2015 21:07

the twitter stuff is awful

VulcanWoman · 25/10/2015 21:05

Wonder if she'd had a Son or Daughter born in to the wrong body she would have the same view.

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