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WEP

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rogueantimatter · 20/10/2015 09:59

Launch of the Women's Equality Party policies today.

Anyone think they might vote for WEP?

I might.... (I've voted for almost every other pp in my time!)

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WMittens · 23/10/2015 12:08

Currently, women earn 34% of the wages in the UK and make just 33% of the pension contributions

That doesn't strike me as a major difference. Without seeing the underlying figures, it could even be as close as (or closer than) 33.5% wages and 33.4% pensions.

WMittens · 23/10/2015 12:04

In total, women earn just 52% of what men do every year because not only do they earn less, they are more likely to sacrifice the opportunity to earn a wage for the sake of their family

Is that not a life choice? Is the household wage not just that, a family's income? IMO it does not matter which parent brings in the money, I'm all for SAHFs, but to state that reason is a gender pay gap is disingenuous. It is for each family to decide how the manage their income streams. I think it would be a positive culture shift for women to have an equal chance of being a primary or sole wage earner.

WMittens · 23/10/2015 12:00

Forty-five years after the Equal Pay Act, for every hour they work, women still earn just 81p of every pound earned by men. There are many ways of measuring the pay gap – pay for each hour worked, pay for each worker, total pay for all women, and for all men – but however you measure it, the story is the same: women earn less per hour, less per job and less overall.

However you measure it using those (extremely flawed) methods, the story is the same.

Unfortunately, every single one of those metrics is distorted because it doesn't take into account the pay for different roles: law, medicine, finance and STEM jobs pay higher than e.g. care and teaching roles.

AQG gives various estimates at male primary teachers, from 1 in 10 to 1 in 20, and a statement of "a quarter of primary schools have no male teachers".

On the Solicitor's Roll, 48.6% were women, however 60ish% of entrants to university and training contracts are women (from here, so we should see an equalisation (and then swing) in the next few years.

I've tried (and failed) to find the stats of university entrants - this showed that women are more likely to choose the likes of sociology and care fields compared to STEM, etc. We know there's been a big push to get more women into STEM which is a good thing as long as those women want to be in STEM. I don't want half of Gender Studies applicants refused entry and forced to go into Biochemistry if it's not something they want to do. However, those choices will maintain a "pay gap" if the ridiculous methods of calculation above continue to be used.

rogueantimatter · 23/10/2015 11:22

Thank you for the link.

(I almost went to a local meeting to watch the policy launch but I was too timid!)

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FreshwaterSelkie · 23/10/2015 06:31

I joined this morning and I've been reading through the policy paper here

All seems like something I can get on board with, and I can't recall that I've ever read a policy paper and not thought at some point "Oh good lord no, I don't think that's a good idea" Grin

I'm a bit limited in what I can do as I'm not in the UK, but I'm certainly planning on getting involved where I can.

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