So today, I made a point and the Men didn't like it.

In the US, the law degree is Juris Doctor and like Doctor of Medicine, is a post-graduate degree. The convention among lawyers is not to use the title, though, so all lawyers are addressed Mr or Ms.

Good for you, OP.

I despair of all the young women today who tell me that 'Ms' is just for divorced women.

( I ALWAYS reply with the name on the signature)

but RandomMess your name being spelt wrong, is that because the Men dont like it, or just because people are damned lazy... I think its due to laziness, not a attempt at 'keeping the little woman down'

Same argument but different. At work I like to be called by my first name, in full, not abbreviated, and I like it to be spelt correctly.

My email signature is my first name, in full, spelt correctly. It completely f*cks me off that people don't look at the name I have provided them with and then use it. Why would it be different if it were my title. I think it's rude and lazy when people cba to take note.

Don't encourage me. I am getting older and more curmudgeonly by the month, soon I shall wear purple

Claps OurBlanche

howtorebuild: I will definitely start with, if it was a Mr wanting his title corrected from Miss...

Liking it.

I wrote to a big car company after a couple of their shiny suited berks had behaved aggressively. I referred to the male protagonists as Boy A and Lad B, keeping Child C in reserve for the pillock who asked for my husband's number so he could 'explain it all to him, Love'.

They called me Missy and Love for over an hour and were trying to convince me that I had no need for the specific car I wanted to order, the model they had in was just as good. It took me an hour to get all of their names, at which point I left, no purchase.

I got the car I wanted, delivered and with a small upgrade, after my somewhat sarcastic email and letter to the CEO.

Have fun with your complaint. Throw everything in and re-read it and make sure it sounds icy and angry.

What has it got to do with the car manufacturers? Do they own the place you got it from? I don't really know how it works.

Surely the point here in the complaint is that they made a mistake, did not promptly resolve it and then they were really, really rude to you.

I don't think that the DVLA or anybody else is going to care whether it was over Ms or them getting your middle name wrong. The issue is the rudeness and incompetence in completing and rectifying paperwork.

Little Red I think they didnt want to change it because of the work involved, i dont think that anyone really cares that if you should be labeled as Miss/Mrs. I think that they just got it wrong, i dont think there was an underlying oppression here. I understand what you're saying here that these men most likely didn't sit around chuckling saying 'This woman wants to be called Ms. but fuck her, the stupid little woman, let's call her Miss'. However, I do think it does hint at an underlying oppression (a) that women's titles matter because there are several for women based on marital status, (b) the perception that Miss and Ms are basically the same and OP's political reasons for choosing one over another don't really matter and (c) not sure if this would have happened it was a man as his title would have been correct in the first place and wouldn't have taken over an hour to get changed.

A Mrs could be anyone who has been married before, a widow, a divorce, not just currently married So could Miss or Ms. The point is that the OP chose what she wants to be called regardless of her contractual relationship (or lack of) with another person and companies and individuals should respect that.

Most people dont even register it, I just call you what you ask to be called. I register it for sure. Your point is absolutely what the OP is saying though. She asked to be called Ms and she wasn't. That's massively disrecpectful and patronising.

I saw a documentary once about the royal garden party where it was mentioned that the Queen doesn't recognise Ms as a title. I'm all for getting rid of titles and the monarchy.

I haven't experienced any issues of late by I don't understand why we need to have Miss/Mrs for women which indicates marital status, when 'Mr' doesn't.

About time paperwork caught up with the century we live in.

It probably didn't occur to them Ms and Miss are different, fools.

The my wife is a feminist bit is really weird.

Women complain about bad service all the time and it doesn't make them a feminist. He had no reason to believe OP was a feminist.

The point is that women have an option to not reveal their married status (historically, and still, imbued with moral value) the same as men have

Slightly facetious, but men don't have the option to reveal their married status.
It's Mr or nothing.

I can't think of where they are useful. I do wonder what my pupils would call me.

They call you Miss or Sir, and heaven forbid you call either of them that when you are a Dr or Professor.

Chuckling at "My wife's a feminist."

"Ooh, is she really?! Does she know the secret handshake?"

I agree with Almond I'm not that old but I've never liked the assumption that my first name can be used at all times. My bank doesn't do that but I have noticed that other organisations.

One conversation with, let's call him Darren, particularly annoyed me. Darren worked for an insurance company which had cocked up paying out on a claim they had accepted as valid. I've no idea who "Darren" was but "Darren" had access to all sorts of information about me.

Darren started off calling me "ALass." Possibly if Darren had been helpful I wouldn't have minded but as he wasn't helpful Darren was very surprised when I asked him if we'd met. "No , why do I ask? "

"Because in that case I can't imagine why you are using my first name"

The aggression and the blood boiling comment suggest much more than 'cant be arsed with the paperwork'. They both suggest 'how dare you make a fuss, little woman. Foul. Unprofessional and intimidating. No excuse for it

Bet it would have taken a lot less than an hour and a half..

Bet they wouldn't have said to him: "stop you're making my blood boil."

I think they didnt want to change it because of the work involved, i dont think that anyone really cares that if you should be labeled as Miss/Mrs. I think that they just got it wrong, i dont think there was an underlying oppression here.

A Mrs could be anyone who has been married before, a widow, a divorce, not just currently married

Most people dont even register it, I just call you what you ask to be called.

Obviously though - " stop you're making my blood boil" is a wanker of the first degree and would have pissed me right off too

I can't think of where they are useful. I do wonder what my pupils would call me.