Raping Asian girls worse than raping white girls because it 'harms their marriage prospects' :o

& yes, thank you so much for creating the petition OTheHugeManatee.
Great work.

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thank you for creating this petition OP.

Yes it's basically saying "Asian community, we want to show how right on we are by honouring your traditions even if they are misogynistic narrow-minded bigotry. Individual rape victim, well you're a women so this isn't about how you feel. Your value has been defined by your community's and potential future husband's attitude to virginity, not by you, an individual who has endured a rape."

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Its a sinister twisted macabre version of the Madonna/whore complex

BrandNew - all victims of rape and sexual assault deserve to be seen as individuals and anything that minimises or lessens the effect on some victims because of their ethnicity cannot be right.

Would you say that, because I am not a virgin, being raped would cause me less emotional and psychological damage than it would cause a virgin? Would my pain be worse than someone who has had more sexual partners than me?

I think every victim's pain is unique and terrible, and to look at one group and say 'your pain is less than their pain' - that is a vile thing for the judge to say, and I am appalled that anyone would defend unequal treatment.

When you talk of white supremacy, are you suggesting that white victims of rape and sexual assault are responsible for, and should pay the price for, what has been done to other ethnic groups? that's like saying inequality is fine if it punishes historical wrongs or even current ones. Would,you say that to a white rape victim's face? "You don't deserve true justice because of what white people have done to other races."

Yes it's not just horrific because it places the horrific experience of rape second to the value placed on virginity – but because it identifies the culturally defined "future" a girl can expect if she hasn't been raped, as having some kind of preferential value.

The only thing "better" about being expected to marry into your own religion/community as a pristine virgin according to your parents' wishes, is that it's culturally condoned. Objectively, it sucks. It's telling all Asian girls that that's what is best for them. But what if they want to marry someone else, or have sex before marriage (as is their legal right), or are gay, or would rather spend their life single and celibate?

Oh yes that would mean they were actually individual human beings with an independent right to be who they like. Can't have that can we.

The whole thing stinks, it's wrong on so many levels, insulting to both white and Asian women, and by extension to all women.

I'm pretty sure that a judge would take into account any culture like a strict Catholic culture and the wider implications the same as s/he has done in this case.

Equality isn't giving everyone the same when they don't have the same starting point. But then again it's quite easy to say that everyone should have the same when you have started off in a higher off place.

The heavier sentencing isn't to do with the fact she's Muslim it's to do with the wider implications on her life now.

Or it could be nothing to do with her religion or culture it could be because the attacker has previous for it and they haven't been able to find him guilty yet so they've come down harder.

That's how they determine sentencing, not every burglar gets the same sentence.

What Big Choc said.

As a BME non-Muslim woman, I want to point out it isn't just white victims who might be targetted. All the rest of us would be.
Rape victims deserve equality in how they are valued

However, if Muslim girls & women are subject to such shame, a heavier sentence might not have any effect, if the rapist now knows a Muslim victim is less likely than other victims to report him.

Heavier sentences just reinforce the idea that the victims are damaged goods.

Victim-blaming is unacceptable, The rapist bears 100% of the guilt & shame

BrandNew It might be a general consensus but you try telling that to ppl who have grown up in strict Catholic households. Catholic girls who were attacked and raped were NOT supported. Unless you call the Magdelene laundries support. The last one closed in 1996 so still well within living memory.

This is nothing to do with race and everything to do with culture. When the misogyny in the Catholic religion is called out there isnt the same attempt to shut down discussion by trying to make it about race.

I have a problem with ALL cultures that treat women like second class citazens. And i come from a Catholic family.

The Magdelene laundries have closed but the shame and blame continues for Catholic women and girls who have been assaulted.

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How do you know what race people are?

Your all so caught up in 'its not fair I'm white and I don't get special treatment' your blind.

How do you know I haven't been raped?

And now there is a petition for this poor girl attackers sentence to be reduced. Wtf can you not put yourself in her shoes for once.

This is why black feminists don't get involved with white feminists. As a white person I have a white privilege but I can actually see my unfair privilege unlike some.

I will sign. Outrageous.

BrandNew - if you have ever read any of the threads on here where women who have been raped have shared their stories, then you would quickly realise that their futures have also been abolished. What a ridiculous statement to make.

This is not about white supremacy, it is about victims being equal in the eyes of the law.

Equal doesn't mean everyone gets the same when they don't even have the same starting point.

If a short person and a tall person both couldn't see over a fence it would be stupid to give them both the same size step to see over. The tall one would be to tall and the short person still may not be able to see over. You give them both a step where they can see comfortably.

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Rape is rape and obviously it's an awful hate crime.

When sentencing happens with other cases and I expect rape cases to the judge takes into account how the victims life has been effected.

If a white woman gets raped the general consensus is that her family will support her and future boyfriends will be sympathetic and not blame her. An Asian Muslim woman isn't going to have the same support fgs and the rapist hasn't just raped her he's abolished her future to.

If you can't comprehend someone else's culture of violent oppression, fgm, being brought up to be a 'good' little virgin full of home making skills and how being 'damaged' in the eyes of her whole world what planet do you live on? Oh yes white supremacy.

This isn't a white women aren't as precious as Asian women sort of thing.