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Article in Huffpost about transphobia in midwifery

83 replies

TribbleNamedDave · 17/09/2015 21:38

I've read this several times now, and I honestly don't know what I think about it all.

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IsabelleEberhardt · 17/09/2015 21:54

This type of thing makes me really angry. How dare anyone try and remove 'women' from childbirth? People can identify as whatever they like but that does not change biology.

ChunkyPickle · 17/09/2015 21:54

I don't think that it's wrong to use the word Motherhood, or say that Motherhood is a part of Womanhood. I think it is erasing Women to suggest that because transmen can also carry children, we should not use those words to describe something that is a key aspect of being a woman.

I think here's where we hit that redefinition problem again, where woman is the right word, but woman is used as another word for feminine, rather than another word for female.

Ubik1 · 17/09/2015 21:52

These things always make me want to go for a lie down.

It's down the rabbit hole, it really is.

Snossidge · 17/09/2015 21:50

Fucking ridiculous that you can't even call people who are pregnant and giving birth women.

"Women and transmen/female-bodied people who don't identify as women(?)" if really necessary, but not removing all reference to women and mothers.

BBQueen · 17/09/2015 21:49

It's a difficult one, as there can't be a huge number of transgendered people that are pregnant or giving birth. I would hope that it remains ok for midwives to address their work as serving women and talk about the issues around pregnancy as "women's issues", as for me, this was a helpful part of pregnancy, labour and postnatal care.

museumum · 17/09/2015 21:48

Personally I have no time for this.
I totally understand that people may want to identify as a different gender in all social life.
But when it comes down to ob/gyn medicine if you have female physicality I think you just have to accept the use of the term "woman" as shorthand for "person with uterus" in literature aimed at the general population of people with uteruses (uteri?).

BBQueen · 17/09/2015 21:44

Apologies... You had already linked. Forgive my nincompoopery.

BBQueen · 17/09/2015 21:43

link

Will now read and revert.

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