Misleading campaign trying to con the UK about the horrific level of domestic violence committed by men against women

Violence against other men is unacceptable too, Plays.

Finding what may have caused somebody to behave violently, what has triggered violent outbursts, can help prevent more violent outbursts in the future. This can provide coping mechanisms. No excuses, just solving problems.

It seems that the posters are alienating a significant proportion of men, which the poster identifies as the perpetrators of violence in practice - which is not conducive to help being sought.

Would a more gender neutral campaign, which highlighted a number of factors in the cause of violent crime, necessarily be offensive?

And thankfully it is. And this campaign helps. Money should of course be spent on more campaigns like this, so that the general populace slowly takes on board that violence against women is unacceptable, in the same way as money was spent on campaigns which slowly helped the general populace to see that drink driving is unacceptable and that driving without a seatbelt is unacceptable.

Money should also be spent in schools, so that children who witness or experience violence in their homes can feel confident in reporting it. Further money should be spent on educating women that they will be believed if they report, this should probably be done during ante natal classes.

This campaign should be the tip of the iceberg in showing everyone that the simple choice of violence is the wrong choice. Rather than spending money trying to find excuses for violent men.

'Aren't that'? I've just had coffee, too, no excuse!

Aren't that what the posters are doing, offering help? There's a phone number and everything.

Play the money should be focussed on wherever the need is most intense.

NiNoKuni no tell the truth but more of the truth, people often need help to get better.

Capsium So...don't tell the truth about male violence as it may hurt men's feelings and cause men to be even more violent?

Which form of abuse should the money be concentrated on, in your opinion then?

Plays I never said DV did start with physical violence, hence I mentioned other types of abuse in my post.

If this campaign leads men in general to be regarded with suspicion then what is their place in society? How can they contribute all we want them too if they cannot be trusted, if they are deemed 'prone' to violence? This just reinforces traditional gender divides...

Regarding the campaign, it focuses on the disapproval of male violent action, not on solving it. If a father, for example, did have genuine difficulty controlling his violent outbursts, the poster serves to reinforce shame which might hinder him asking for help.

I don't condone violence. I believe in supporting victims. However shaming groups of people, rather than being disapproving of types of behaviour, I just feel does no good. People are more than their behaviour. Shaming just promotes denial.

If you honestly believe that DV starts with physical violence, then I'm afraid you're starting to look like you don't know what you're talking about.

But you might not have a problem until you are beat up. Or you might if you are abused in other ways. The thing is you don't (individually) have a problem until something happens. A whole host of problems might actually be caused if undue suspicion causes anxiety.

As for asking for help, help needs to be approachable and available. Does the campaign focus on this?

I think campaigns can be useful but this one isn't hard hitting enough. I think it should state the statistics and really put the responsibility on to men, not just 'dads'.

I actually like it's gendered nature but I find it too soft. I do agree with capsicum, that people who are capable of producing violence are a different animal and probably won't be affected by a poster campaign. However, it should be used on young teen males

But how does that help the women and children (and other men) who are too scared to ask?

It is better to target the source - then you can hope to prevent violence, instead of mopping up after it.

What you are advocating is for people to find out they 'have a problem' by getting beaten up, isn't it?

Simply start with helping those people who have asked for it. We don't effectively do that yet and yes it does seem wrong that millions are spent on awareness campaigns when there isn't the infrastructure there to help even the people who are aware they have a problem.

I'd like the moon on a stick.

It's very easy to dismiss campaigns (which, as has been observed, can work very well) and to make vague claims like 'I want more action' or 'I want to listen to all the violent people and help them'.

But how exactly does this fit with your claim you want to help individuals, and not stereotype? All action has to fit parameters, and every funding body will have its cut-off points. Some vaguely-defined 'action' doesn't get around the fact that violence is gendered and it is therefore most efficient to treat it as a gendered problem.

Well I would like more active action (than advertising) then.

YY, amen to that big.

No, people who are at risk should be targeted.

And no, it wasn't 'obvious' you want to 'extend' listening to victims 'too'.

Campaigns are a form of action.

I would like action, not advertising campaigns, in actuality. Put the money into action. For people not to have to wait unduly for appointments with Mental Health Services for example.

Does anyone have the stats related to this poster? Are you more likely to commit Dv if you have children? Are dads and mums more violent than adults that are childfree?
If this is so maybe contraception would reduce Dv.
I'm a male human and don't mind the poster but I think it is a bit clumsy

Listening is not exclusive to the perpetrators of violence, it should be extended to the victims too - I thought that much was obvious.

No one should be 'targeted' IMO, unless everyone is...