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Women do it too.

90 replies

BudgeUp · 19/08/2015 10:59

I'm feeling somewhat frustrated because I've just been talking to a friend about why that idiot felt the need to hack mumsnet and when I linked it to the wider issue of men (NAMALT) silencing women talking together online, her immediate response was "women hack just as much as men".

Similarly in the past when, for example, a newsworthy sex abuse/rape/DV/murder has been a topic of conversation there is always one who points out that women also abuse/rape/hit/murder.

Just like "Not all men" I find it incredibly derailing and am never sure how to respond to it without sounding like I completely hate men.

Sorry just wanted to vent.

OP posts:
sonnyson12 · 20/08/2015 22:46

And ask any adult woman, false allegations are rife within the family court.

SansaryaAgain · 20/08/2015 22:44

Why would you be more concerned about female violence towards your daughter when women run a higher risk of being a victim of male violence rather than female?

PlaysWellWithOthers · 20/08/2015 22:44

Soooo objective!

We'll all have to pay attention to you now!

AnyFucker · 20/08/2015 22:43

does everyone like my new testicle earrings ?

purty, ain't they ?

sonnyson12 · 20/08/2015 22:43

www.onsgov.uk/ons/dcp171778_298904.pdf

MaillotRojoPan · 20/08/2015 22:40

okay. But ask any adult woman. She will tell you you are looking in the wrong place. But what do they know about it that you don't eh?

AskBasil · 20/08/2015 22:38

He's not good at perspective.

Or real info.

Hmm
sonnyson12 · 20/08/2015 22:37

Maillo

Thanks, but no thanks.

AskBasil · 20/08/2015 22:35

Here is the URL, Sonny

AskBasil · 20/08/2015 22:34

What are you on about? I copied the link referenced on your picture.

If it exists, why don't you link to it?

PlaysWellWithOthers · 20/08/2015 22:34

Basil did url it... it's not there.

Which bit of that are you failing to comprehend?

MaillotRojoPan · 20/08/2015 22:32

I'm more concerned about female violence toward her. As a dad you really need to examine your perspective-taking on that one.

sonnyson12 · 20/08/2015 22:31

url it, its there.

YonicScrewdriver · 20/08/2015 22:29

Which hit and run attempt was that?

Here's one from July - male charged

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-33632939

(Below that story - another one

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-34009127

Sadly, that male victim of two male perpetrators died)

PlaysWellWithOthers · 20/08/2015 22:26

Basil posted the link taken from your 'informative' picture. It doesn't exist.

The victims of male violence are mostly men. Men harm and kill men in huge numbers all round the world. They all harm and kill women in huge numbers all round the world. Women harm and kill in small numbers, hence those cases being publicised. Because they are out of the ordinary.

I think it might be pointless wasting my time telling you this, because you won't deal too well with facts. Shame.

AskBasil · 20/08/2015 22:24

No, I used the reference given in your link and it doesn't exist.

sonnyson12 · 20/08/2015 22:20

It does, your link doesn't.

TheWomanTheyCallJayne · 20/08/2015 22:19

Something I've also noticed is that people who like to turn the tables always use 'facts'* about victims completely disregarding the figures for the perpetrators.
For example if the seven dv victims were true, what it doesn't say is that out of those three male victims the abuser will be male for two of them.

*true or normally untrue

sonnyson12 · 20/08/2015 22:18

A previous poster, perhaps not on this thread, suggested that they never hear of any act of violence upon a male. This week alone, a man had his genitalia set on fire and another man survive a hit and run murder attempt.

I am not trying to diminish male on female violence, I am a Father that has gone to great lengths to ensure that my daughter is well equipped to protect herself. I'm more concerned about female violence toward her.

AskBasil · 20/08/2015 22:17

That chart's bollocks Sonny. It's made up figures, the reference quoted doesn't exist.

ONS reference

sonnyson12 · 20/08/2015 22:07

A

Women do it too.
SheldonsSpotOnTheCouch · 20/08/2015 15:08

Out of seven cases of dv four victims will be women and three will be men? One man a week is killed by a woman?

I call bullshit.

Who on earth is protecting these women? It's those women judges letting them all off to protect the sisterhood isn't it? Jeez, that 25% really let the others down.

scalliondays · 20/08/2015 14:23

Disregarder - do you seriously believe that men as an entity are not way more violent than women? Why would you think this?

JeffhasAMicroPenis · 20/08/2015 14:23

I've killed three men today slow day at the office . Truefact.

Circumcised a few baby boys for fun too.