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Rape and coercion

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VampyreQueen · 08/08/2015 21:41

I'm trying to think something through and I'd greatly appreciate some help!

My DP and I were discussing a well known game franchise that he plays. I haven't played it myself so only know the story second hand, if you see what I mean.

Essentially, Character A and Character B are kidnapped by the Bad Guys. The Bad Guy tells A that he has a choice; either A can rape B or he (Bad Guy) will. This is basically a means of torture, in that A must decide wether to take the 'kinder' option of doing it or allowing the Bad Guy to do it (probably with added violence)

To me, A is still a rapist and - though in a shit position - is still morally wrong (if you see what I mean)

DP disagrees. I would be interested in your thoughts, Should you care to share them Smile

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minkGrundy · 08/08/2015 22:27

B has been raped, one way or the other. Although if noth A and B are male, whether or not it is classed as rape in the eyes of the law depends on where it is.
(Morally still rape)

Arguably B has also been sexually assualtre ad they have been forced into sex to which thry dud not consent.

The real question though, is wtf is he playing this game?

And would he still be playing if both characters were male?

And surely the miral thing is to ask A what they choose as lesser of two evils.

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VampyreQueen · 08/08/2015 22:20

My DP had a similar argument Daisy and I think that this is what I'm struggling with. I find it hard to see rape as an act of protection. from Bs point of view she was still force into sex.

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LittleLionHeart · 08/08/2015 22:16

Legally he has the complete defence of duress but to raise it you have to fear for your life and the threat has to be immediate.

daisydukes229 · 08/08/2015 22:08

I wouldn't say that A is a rapist.
In that situation it is done as protection, the lesser of 2 evils.

They wouldn't be convicted of it either

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VampyreQueen · 08/08/2015 22:04

We did discuss the scenario with different acts - like punching, beating, tormenting etc and I still sort of felt the same. No idea about the legal consequences e.g. in court but morally I feel like the person commuting the act is still wrong.

Perhaps I am being naive but I also wonder how you could -ahem- be turned on enough to do the deed in that scenario?

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YonicScrewdriver · 08/08/2015 21:53

What if A had a choice of hitting B or letting the kidnapper do it?

A would have committed an assault on B - the reasoning would probably be taken into account in the sentencing.

Kidnapper probably guilty of rape or conspiracy to rape B.