Feminist Pub XX - may the summer rains wash the patriarchy down the plughole

Do it in here selkie and don't mention any buzz words!
I know what you mean. Between the guest post about decrim, the poor Oscar pistorious posts and the weekend debacle about Serena/trans stuff I am also struggling

that pamphlet is ridiculous! I want to believe it's a parody, but sadly it appears not.

I'm finding the dog-whistle types crawling all over feminist threads (here and elsewhere) to spout the same tired old tripe, straw men, derailing etc very very wearing just now. There's stuff I'd love to talk about but I'm hesitant to open up at a time when I'm already feeling very vulnerable. I just want to have a good old whinge 'n' tantrum like an over-tired three year old today

In today's instalment of "why women are to blame for being raped" I saw this little nugget.Yes, it's been recalled, but how the ever living fuck do police forces STILL get it so wrong?

They almost certainly do have some kind of alert, I know there's at least one poster who must have an alert set up which triggers at the word abortion, because she's on every single thread about the subject droning on about how women just can't possibly be trusted to make decisions about their bodies.

It's an AIBU thread, predictably. Think you're not supposed to start threads about other threads - I guess it's okay to vent? The one about husband not asking for flexible working seems to have brought out all the usual Stepfords - I am pretty sure some of them turn up religiously to stamp the little woman back down and chide her for her ingratitude. Makes me wonder if they've got a search automated.

All my threads are dropping off the list!

Which thread(s) or is it bad form to say?

Fucks sake. Same old fucking bleating on every fucking thread that comes up that even suggests that a MAN might be being a tiny bit unreasonable to block the return to work of the mother of his children by being a lazy prick.

They are fucking bots, not intelligent life forms.

Right, back to Monday.

Since 1975:

One female prime minister
No female Chancellors
One female foreign secretary
Two female Home Secretaries.

The oestrogen isn't much beyond homeopathic levels yet...

You can say "the amount of testosterone in British politics is depressing" but there's this:
www.bbc.com/news/blogs-the-papers-36741946

Do I catch the whiff of oestrogen in the breeze?

Hopefully they will retract the fine they imposed for false testimony on Lisa Lohfink too
Disgusting

Agreed, a step forward

I see in the news that Germany has made some much-needed updates to its rape laws

What do we think? Seems positive in that it removes the bizarre requirement for a woman to physically resist a rapist, which is a step in the right direction.

I agree, things are pretty grim at the moment generally and the amount of testosterone in British politics is depressing. The pub is empty, but then at this hour that's probably a good thing! Off to find an early morning feminist coffee.

I hope so too - and I'm sure it won't!

I am so conscious that much of this debate is about miscommunication - so, with luck, we'll get past the actual disagreements in the end.

So true Robins Myself and dh lucky enough to be retired early from fairly well paid middle class professions. Two ds both degree educated but recently both unemployed. Our relationship with our sons has mostly been good and I really hope this will not cause a permenant rift..

Oh, no.

It's depressing how much it becomes a family argument. I read some great pieces by people about how hard it is to have that discussion. Especially when there's an element of tension about what kinds of job/lifestyle you have, and what kind the rest of your family has.

I'm fed up too. Especially with hearing my dh and ds 1 shouting at each other over brexit. Last night I burst in to tears with the stress of it and I told them if they didn't stop and agree to disagree I would go and stay with my mum for the summer ( a measure of my desperation!) The only positive thing I can think of out of it is that I raised a politically aware ds...

right back at you, Dete.

But yes, feeling fed up about the world seems to be pretty universal at the moment.

"Gender still exists. "

Yeah. We watched Robot Wars and DC noticed that in one of the teams which had a young woman in it they never interviewed her. :(

Hello pub. The world feels so rubbish at the moment. The pub's always empty. Gender still exists. Brexit. My local children's centre is low on funding. Bah humbug.

I am sticking to posting about Brexit in small places.

The sadness at what is happening as a result of it all is sometimes overwhelming.

Hello! Haven't been here for a while. I've ranted a fair bit in RL though ...