Feminist Pub XX - may the summer rains wash the patriarchy down the plughole

Hi, I'm just going to come in and hide in a quiet corner by the fireplace for a bit. I'm separating from my abusive H and it's chaos and madness at home, he goes from nice to nasty in a heartbeat. I'm exhausted, not sleeping, feeling on the verge of an anxiety attack constantly. Holding it together for DCs but only just. Sorry for dragging the atmosphere down but I think there's a chance H won't find me in the pub.

The Twitter account @twowomentravel is worth a follow and some solidarity today if you have time.

Two women, who, because of Ireland's repressive laws against women have to travel to the UK to access abortion are live tweeting their journey to Enda Kenny. Getting the usual abuse from the pro forced birth brigade.

Lime and soda is my default.

I am boring though. I asked for lime and soda last night but apparently the only included non-alcoholic option was this ginger thing so I went with that. It was pleasantly refreshing and served with all the celebratory trimmings, fancy glass, slice of lime.

That's the way to do it Felas

I've been enjoy9ng a few childfree days, tidied up on Tuesday and its still tidy! Don't have to go to work and I'm not even dressed yet

Elderflower presse?

There's not a lot. Fentimans ginger beer is my favourite non alcoholic grown up drink.

There is an absolute dearth of non-alcoholic, non-sweet, cold, adult drinks I think.

I end up buying non-alcohol beer just to have something savoury to drink in the evenings, to fill the gap of real alcohol, which obviously it wouldn't be good to drink all the time....

Chicken passabda for lunch here!

Happy Friday, everyone!

It's sunny here, which I like and I'm in the garden eating panzenella for lunch. The only blot on the horizon is that I have to go to the hairdressers this afternoon, which I loathe. I only go when I can't see out from under my fringe any more . Will reward myself for my bravery with wine when I get home.

PMT sucks. Me too.

No coffee here, out of milk. I'm drying my hair as I type to take DC out for brekkie (to a soft play cafe - eek!)

I could do with a Friday hang out if it's ok to pop in?. My DC go to STBXHs for the next couple of nights and I hate it. Even though I'm happy they're having a good time etc.

Erinaceus that ginger drink sounds lovely. I love your cheerful hurrah. I am trying to find a new cheerier way to approach the weekend

Friday again! Hurrah!

I am not at the pub yet, but I am having a morning coffee.

Last night I went to an event which served some sort of ginger-based sparkling-non-alcoholic-cocktail-thing. It was so nice to have a celebratory non-alcoholic drink and not feel as if I was being pretentious or holier than thou by not drinking something alcoholic. Some days, I choose not to drink, and it is shit to be in spaces where I worry that people will assume that I am either pregnant or trying when I order something non-alcoholic.

Anyway, I am having my coffee, as I said, and looking forward to another of these ginger-sparking-non-alcoholic-things in the treehouse-with-the-cannon-and-the-goat when I get home from work tonight. I do not know about anyone else, but for me, it has been a long week.

Congrats on getting married, rattata! (And ignore dinosaur uncle - what a weird thing to say! Because of course the only reason for getting married is to change one's title.)

xbb I'm sorry that you have had such a bad experience. If you start a thread on men being subject to harassment at work I'm sure you will get a lot of support.

I for one would like to keep at least this thread for friendly supportive discussion on things that affect women.

xbblcjr thanks for the observation

RattataPidgeyRattataPidgey

Congratulations on your marriage!

What was the best thing about your wedding party?

I hope that it was not your Uncle's comment.

I took my car to the garage this week and they had me down as Mr.

This happened to me, with a utility bill. In a way, the experience made me less hung-up about my title.

I did get it corrected though .

To be clear: your experiences as a male sexually harassed at work are not relevant to an article about the enormous level of sexual harassment men inflict on women in the workplace.

They are absolutely relevant to an article about the very rare cases of men being accused in the workplace.

Mmmmkay?

I think it's fine to do a piece on sexual harassment of males at work that contextualises the problem as being one that happens very rarely to men in contrast to women.

I don't think it's necessary to always mention other groups that this thing happens to, without contextualising it. An observation that "cats get abused too", in the context of an article about donkey sanctuaries, is just pointless. An observation that "cruelty to animals is a big issue and of course donkeys are not the only victims - cats, dogs, newts etc. are also victims of human cruelty to animals and the causes and solutions are the same/ different from those applied to donkeys; however we will focus on donkeys for this article as that's what we're talking about right now."

D'you see?

The conversation doesn't always have to include all groups affected by an issue, however whiny and entitled they may be and however used they are to hearing their voices centred in all discussions about every topic ever.

HTH

Askbwhatever - so my experiences as a make being sexually abused at work are not relevant? If there was a piece purely on male sexually harassment you would be OK with that?

Ratata I don't get why people are so invested in the "Mrs" title either.

I took my car to the garage this week and they had me down as Mr.

Quite why your sex or marital status is important to a garage I can't really fathom.

But it's irrelevant to the main story xbblwhatever.

When there's a story about cruelty to donkeys and the need for more sanctuaries, journalists don't feel the need to remind their readers that cats get abused too.

rattata how annoying! Congratulations on the wedding.

Felascloak - I guess it mentions that men get harassed too because they get harassed too?

Barging in here, but I'm still annoyed at my uncle asking me why I got married if I wasn't going to be a Mrs at my fucking wedding party a few weeks ago. Cba posting in AIBU because I'm not quite THAT bothered. But still. Yeah, why did I bother getting married? I'm still a Ms now, what a big old waste of time, eh?