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Feminist Pub XX - may the summer rains wash the patriarchy down the plughole

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NoTechnologicalBreakdown · 07/08/2015 08:17

Ooh ooh! Do I get to start it?

Wine and cake all round. And a celebratory burst on the patriarchy-blasting cannon!

Old pub here

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SenecaFalls · 12/09/2015 20:03

I think Wilder does count because Wisconsin and Minnesota were frontier regions when those books were set. Those states are part of the mid-West now. So the books are Midwesterns, maybe? Smile

EBearhug · 12/09/2015 19:41

I don't suppose Laura Ingalls Wilder counts as westerns. There are memoirs - I've got a book called Fifteen Thousand Miles by Stage by Carrie Adell Strahorn, and I've got an anthology of shorter pieces about women on the frontier.

I can't actually name any Western writers other than Zane Grey anyway. When I worked in the local lending library, they were just shelved under "Westerns", and didn't have to go in alphabetical order. (Same with "romance" and "crime".)

MsMermaid · 12/09/2015 18:56

I must have been away too long, you're right. Now, having not found a single western written by a woman myself because I haven't looked further than my local library I now have a choice, as long as I can find one of them cheap.

SenecaFalls · 12/09/2015 18:44

I thought of another possibility: Annie Proulx's Close Range: Wyoming Stories is not a novel, but a collection of short stories. It includes Brokeback Mountain.

OublietteBravo · 12/09/2015 18:34

Oh yes - books are always a popular topic in the pub Smile

YonicScrewdriver · 12/09/2015 18:26

You talked about books in the feminist pub and you didn't expect people to start looking?

Hmmm, you've been away a bit too long, my dear!Wink

MsMermaid · 12/09/2015 18:18

Wow, I didn't really expect people to start looking for books for me. Thanks. I don't really know what counts as a western, I've just been given a load of categories to read one book from each, one of the categories is "western" with no further guidance. So I think I can interpret it quite loosely if needs be.

slightlyglitterpaned · 12/09/2015 17:07

Kate Boyles Bingham

onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupname?key=Bingham%2C%20Kate%20Boyles%2C%201876-1959

Or some of these?

bookriot.com/2015/07/15/8-western-novels-every-occasion/
I'm a bit wary of Mary Doria Russell though after The Sparrow (very good, but horrifying things happen to main characters).

slightlyglitterpaned · 12/09/2015 16:51

What counts as Western? (Thinking of Ursula Le Guin).

NeverEverAnythingEver · 12/09/2015 15:29

Helen McInnes - Oh I used to read her books when I was a teenager! I loved them.

EBearhug · 12/09/2015 15:25

have you ever found a spy book or a westeen written by a woman?
Helen McInnes. (Spy, not western.) Haven't read any since I was at school and reading about a million books a year, unlike now.

OublietteBravo · 12/09/2015 14:15

I'd not thought of it like that - but I see what you mean. It may come from the idea that dressing in a smart manner equated to being wealthy (and hence being able to afford to outsource the up-keep of such garments).

DH irons the shirts in this household (his and school shirts for DD and DS anyway).

YonicScrewdriver · 12/09/2015 13:59

Yy

Though DH irons his own shirts and anything occasional I need, for the very reason that the bulk of the ironing is his.

NeverEverAnythingEver · 12/09/2015 13:52

I agree.

People look at me as if I'm mad when I question such thing...

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 12/09/2015 13:39

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YonicScrewdriver · 12/09/2015 09:04

I like Stella Rimington, the first one was very good.

NeverEverAnythingEver · 12/09/2015 09:01

But plenty of detective novels by women! Smile

NeverEverAnythingEver · 12/09/2015 09:00

I was just coming to say Stella Remington - I've got one at home but haven't read it. Last time I read a western must be about 30 years ago. Blush Shock

ChunkyPickle · 11/09/2015 21:24

heard? Heart..

ChunkyPickle · 11/09/2015 21:23

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Western_fiction_authors

Wikipedia has a few - I was momentarily fooled by Doris 'Bury my heard at Wounded Knee' Brown, who was a man - was there a fashion at the time opposite to now, with boys being given traditional girls names?

SenecaFalls · 11/09/2015 21:20

What about Willa Cather? For Westerns, I mean.

SenecaFalls · 11/09/2015 21:18

I'm lucky slugs that the organization I work for has a feminist ethos; the outside world not so much.

MsMermaid · 11/09/2015 21:17

I've read the first Stella rimmington book for the spy book, I'm still looking for a western. I thought for a minute you might have found one for me. I've got til December to find one, so I'll keep looking and read the easier categories first.

slugseatlettuce · 11/09/2015 21:10

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vesuvia · 11/09/2015 21:09

MsMermaid wrote - "have you ever found a spy book or a westeen written by a woman?"

Off the top of my head, I thought of Helen Fielding's "Olivia Joules and the Overactive Imagination" and the books of Stella Rimington for spy books, but I couldn't immediately come up with any women who wrote westerns.

Which books did you find for these genres?

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