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Feminist Pub XX - may the summer rains wash the patriarchy down the plughole

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NoTechnologicalBreakdown · 07/08/2015 08:17

Ooh ooh! Do I get to start it?

Wine and cake all round. And a celebratory burst on the patriarchy-blasting cannon!

Old pub here

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NeverEverAnythingEver · 27/11/2015 11:44

Amelia There are some links to women composers on that page, i think. I once heard a slightly mad choral piece by a woman but can't remember who it was...

Hello Empress! >

Peas are very nice vegetables and get a bad press. They need better PR or better union. >

EmpressOfTheVulvaCupcakes · 27/11/2015 10:46

As far as I can tell, whenever someone mentions Bruce Jenner on Twitter it replies with Caitlyn . Whether Jenner is involved I have no idea.

PassiveAgressiveQueen · 27/11/2015 09:01

Caitlin bot? What is one of them?

EmpressOfTheVulvaCupcakes · 27/11/2015 08:10

Hello, I'm a first-timer.

I'm feeling entertained at the moment because on Twitter the other night I accused Bruce Jenner of having a brain the size of a pea. The Caitlyn-bot popped up to complain about my choice of words.

Apparently it wanted me to say the Caitlyn had a brain the size of a pea instead so I was happy to oblige.

BuffytheScaryFeministBOO · 27/11/2015 08:01

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AmeliaIsHappy · 26/11/2015 23:01

Hello again (I need wine - bloody yr11 driving me up the bloody wall). Slight NC due to potential outing on AIBU thread.

I like that music never. Kids in school get my classical music on the speakers every time they ask to listen to ipods so that'll go down a treat!

I've finally managed to get almost everyone to accept that I'd rather be single than in a crappy relationship. Yay! Feeling so proud.

Also, DSis promised to vote in every election every for the rest of her life after seeing suffragettes so I'm also feeling smug after her 'what's the point in feminists' comment two years ago (not that I'm bitter).

OTOH, I'm playing peacemaker at the moment. DBro and his (nuclear) family are not getting on and I really am trying to not get stuck in the middle, but it is hard. DSis (a different one) told him his GF should only be interested in his happiness. She actually thinks that a woman should be happy as long as her man is happy. I really don't know what to do. I want to steal DSis away from her 'D'M and our 'D'F and explain how women have feelings too, but I just don't know how to help her.

My current plan is to keep siblings (4 of us in total) in constant contact cos we're all feminists (the bro is an just an ally) and hoping she'll see the light.

NeverEverAnythingEver · 26/11/2015 10:55

For classical music people: This morning on Radio 3 they played a baroque composer who was a woman - Élisabeth-Claude Jacquet de La Guerre www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/86233265-959c-4537-a2ee-47160c734e18 She was the first woman to have an opera staged.

(Funny, isn't it? They looked to see if you've got a willy before staging your opera...)

OneMoreCasualty · 26/11/2015 07:27

Congrats to Mrs Justice Cheema-Grubb, who is the first Asian woman to be sworn in as a High Court judge.

PlaysWellWithOthers · 25/11/2015 15:24

Yay for small INicked.

Just for info Eubank is not a nice man.*

He'll come out with a lot of that shite.

*utter fucking bellend

PassiveAgressiveQueen · 25/11/2015 15:09

yep woot for i nicked a daughter

OneMoreCasualty · 23/11/2015 20:52

Woo hoo for your DD!

INickedAName · 23/11/2015 15:03

He didn't say anything. He went very quiet. I think he took dds words personally. Because he agrees with her and doesn't want to her to feel like she's expected to do housework etc because she's the woman, but he's also happily plodded along for years and years benefitting from me doing exactly that, wether i was working full time, or not.

He does loads at the weekends now, the big shop, the laundry, dishes,cooking,vacuuming. I think he's trying to set dd an example but she remembers when it wasn't like this (and sometimes teases him about it).

NeverEverAnythingEver · 23/11/2015 14:17

Good for your DD Inicked. :) What did your DH say to that?

INickedAName · 23/11/2015 13:52

Has anyone been watching I'm a celeb?

Dd got into a chat with dh after the sharing of chores, when Tony Hadley suggested women do the laundry cos they are better at it dd muttered at the telly 'they are not better, they get lumped with it' dh agreed with her and said something like because lots of women do it if they are the stay at home parent, doesn't make them better at it, to which dd said "maybe, but the survey they used for the dingo dollars said that when both are in full time work, over 80% of women do all the chores, so sounds like it doesn't matter if women stay at home or work, they get lumped with it forever" she added that she would never live with anyone who can't use a washing machine because she will not be washing anyone's dirty pants under any circumstances. :)

She went to bed before she heard Eubank say women shouldn't be carrying logs.

TesticleOfObjectivity · 21/11/2015 17:53

I know you're right plays, but yes it is sad.

PlaysWellWithOthers · 21/11/2015 13:54

Women live in the world too, and that world constantly has messages about how women are rubbish at certain things. She has obviously internalised and believes those things. It's sad, but not unexpected. Sometimes turkeys vote for Christmas.

TesticleOfObjectivity · 21/11/2015 13:25

I don't usually post in the pub but I wanted to share something and see if anyone could make it seem better. A woman who works with dp said to him yesterday that "men are just superior to womem at some things, like tech".

This came up because my dp had interviewed a man and a woman for a new web developer role and said he'd like a woman to get it because there aren't many women in tech (none in his company) but unfortunately she wasn't a very good candidate. When the colleague made that comment my dp disagreed and said there are lots of reasons for the gender imbalance; boys and girls get socialised differently for one thing. I don't think he really went on about it too much but I feel happy he stood up for women. I just feel a bit depressed that a woman who I think is about my age (28) thinks that way. I'm pleased my dp doesn't feel that way but surely he as the 38 year old man should be the sexist! (Obviously if he was I wouldn't be with him). I feel really sad and angry that a fairly young woman thinks so badly of her own sex.

NeverEverAnythingEver · 20/11/2015 17:52

Dropped off the thread! Shock

Women wear clothes? And shoes? And do things? And run? Surely not. Shock

NoTechnologicalBreakdown · 16/11/2015 02:12

Yes, they're an amazing human invention aren't they, what a wonderful idea that someone running around in dangerous and cold places might need a few extra layers for protection and warmtg. Also that unsung advance in human progress, footwear.

Sad that we're having to congratulate the gaming world for finally noticing what the rest of us noticed a few hundred thousand years ago give or take a few months but what-the-heck... congratulations!

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OneMoreCasualty · 15/11/2015 23:25

Clothes! Excellent!

INickedAName · 15/11/2015 18:42

Lara is dressed in the actual game, in suitable clothing for the climate etc, I'm not sure if it's constant throughout though. This is the only vid I've seen so far.
I watched this review from Feminist Frequency the other day.

RiseOfTheTombRaider

VestalVirgin · 15/11/2015 18:17

Is she dressed on the game's cover, or throughout the whole came? I remain a bit sceptical.

I agree with supporting good media - have been trying to only see movies that pass the Bechdel test for some time now.

NoTechnologicalBreakdown · 15/11/2015 16:15

Don't really think this is worth starting a new thread for, but have any gamers / interested parties seen the new Tomb Raider game? She is DRESSED!! Actually looks like she might be ready for some serious tomb action! I was gobsmacked! Well done whoever made that call, bloody finally!

I've heard mixed reports about the actual game but think will be buying it just to support them (I'm bloody crap at tomb raider, much as I'd like not to be).

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INickedAName · 11/11/2015 15:24

Grrr the pub dropped off my active list again!

I don't know if any of you are on Twitter/Facebook and follow Miranda Yardley, but there's been several women doxxed by Dana(dave) Taylor after Taylor said they'd be doxxing people on Mirandas follow/friend list. A couple have also had their employers contacted too. Just thought I'd mention in case any of you have personal info linked to twitter etc.

TribbleNamedDave · 08/11/2015 21:09

It's so stupid, you should be able to be legitimately single without everyone assuming your brain fell out just because you didn't want to be in a crappy relationship. After seeing and hearing a few awful ones, I'd rather be on my own than with someone who was a git. Life's too short.

I don't like the expectation that you need partners and children to be happy, a lot of people are perfectly happy with their own space and freedom.