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Legalise prostitution to counter feminism (yes really)

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grimbletart · 06/08/2015 12:40

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11785628/Prostitution-Legalise-sex-work-for-modern-men-says-think-tank.html

Absolutely no comment necessary for this Angry

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sausageeggbacon11 · 06/08/2015 14:12

Having just finished reading the full peer reviewed report she uses the discredited Lilith/Eden report from Eaves as one of her arguments that feminist reasoning has failed. She quotes Magnanti (Belle de Jour) only once but plenty of work from various creditable research. Hakim doesn't claim Causal effect but says the evidence seems to support it.

The stripping blog has been saying the same thing for last 3 years and sorry but given everything in the full report (which I got mailed to me by a friend) the Prickademics (as Bindel would call them) will be quoting this work a lot over the next few months, if not years. And people who are sitting on the fence in terms of belief will be backing this work.

WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 06/08/2015 13:11

OMFG

So she says that men are "no longer getting their sexual needs met at home" due to women becoming more empowered - she means that women no longer feel that they have to lie back and think of england? Or is she referring to the criminalisation of rape within marriage?

So she connects women getting more independence with not "giving" their men more sex Confused I was going to write "she connects women getting more independence with not wanting sex as frequently as they used to" but this is clearly cobblers isn't it as increasing independence doesn't have anything to do with your sex drive. So she can only be referring to women no longer having / having to have sex that they don't want.

Then she says that if men can pay for sex they won't commit sexual assaults. Is she saying that all men who pay for sex are rapists? That some of them are? Clearly consensual sex and sexual assault are not the same thing at all, if a man wants to sexually assault people then he wants to sexually assault them, consensual anything isn't going to work for him. So is she saying that terribly old, grotesque idea that society needs to provide prostitutes to be raped and assaulted so that they don't do it to "decent" women?

I mean WTF at the whole thing is she nuts? She genuinely believes that women are pretty much devoid of sexuality and men are all rutting, raping beasts.

Bleurgh.

rosy71 · 06/08/2015 13:09

she argues: “Male sexual desire is manifested at least twice as often as female desire, and men would like to have sex twice as often as women.

Is it me, or does that comment make no sense at all?

scallopsrgreat · 06/08/2015 13:06

Yep they can't help themselves. That's why they commit sexual crimes.

Nowt to do with hatred, sense of entitlement and the culture being upheld by society.

ExitPursuedByABear · 06/08/2015 13:05

It's their sexual appetites dontcha know.

ChunkyPickle · 06/08/2015 13:03

“All the available evidence points in the direction of prostitution and erotic entertainments having no noxious psychological or social effects, and they may even help to reduce sexual crime rates.”

Jesus Christ - does she actually believe this? Has she read any survivor accounts or is she basing it all on Belle du Jour (or whatever that blog/book/TV Programme was) - or more horribly, does she mean on the people consuming and isn't thinking about the women being used at all?

scallopsrgreat · 06/08/2015 13:02

Oh Catherine Hakim. She's a man-pleaser if ever there was one!

She has truly awful and damaging opinions for women.