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Can we talk about Camilla Batmanghedjh?

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HarveySpectre · 05/07/2015 05:24

Everywhere I look, she is getting totally crucified. Including on MN chat.
I don't get it. Even if she has been bad at financial accounts, she has still done amazing work for kids, for the last 19 years.

People are saying the money could have been 'better spent'. What the fuck do they know about what those kids need??

People are calling for measurable benefits I.e. Improved exam results, employment, reduction in offending/criminal activity. You cant link those things to whether a child should be fed! There is no 'measure of improvement' to providing basic need

To my mind KC thought outside the box and catered for those that absolutely needed help the most. You cant always do that effectively, by conventional methods

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HarveySpectre · 05/07/2015 14:28

That article is just she said-she said; with a woman who sold her house and donated the money?? Confused

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LassUnparalleled · 05/07/2015 13:38

The article below is from a few months'ago. Perhaps she is "getting a lashing" now because before she was untouchable.

www.spectator.co.uk/features/9437932/the-trouble-with-kids-company/

HarveySpectre · 05/07/2015 13:24

My opinion is that CB probably is in a better position than most, to know what is the priority for the funds that the charity receive. I also, don't think she is unhinged or so version of meglamaniac and think her judgement is sound. I also think that there really shouldn't be measurable improvements in offending/exam grades etc attached to funding provisions like this

BUT, Regardless of my opinion; I still don't understand the vitriol. The nation has turned on her very quickly and easily. With no actual proof of any wrong doing. Its my understanding that she is standing down as well?

I think everyone has to move aside at some point. But why is she getting such a lashing?

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Gobbolinothewitchscat · 05/07/2015 13:17

But has she done "amazing work"?

I'm not being facetious but the issue seems to be that her work can't be quantified because the accounts aren't very good and there has been. I efforts by the charity to measure deliverability

That's absolutely fine if you're using your own money or private doners' cash and they're happy with that. Not acceptable with taxpayers' money.

And that is nothing to do with CB's sex, I feel sure a make charity head would have been treated exactly the same way

LassUnparalleled · 05/07/2015 13:12

Harvey you said on the other thread "I'm a bit confused as to what people thought KC did?"

I looked at KC site sometime ago as I was unsure of what they actually did and wasn't any clearer afterwards.

Why are you posting this in FWR?

AuntieStella · 05/07/2015 05:41

Unfortunately, the long and active thread on this is in chat and will go pfft, but it's here if anyone wants to look at it:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/2416795-Government-cuts-hit-Kids-Company-and-Camila-Batmanghelidjh-is-stepping-down

The way she dismisses the fund-raising from the general public saddened me considerably. For that alone, I've crossed this charity off my list. My DC had supported it by selling the cakes she derides. Fortunately, I do not think they have seen that comment.

VikingVolva · 05/07/2015 05:36

She's being criticised for not ensuring the charity for which she is near synonymous actually has a normal standard of governance.

Organisations don't get a free pass to fail to observe sector standards because of the sex of their founder.

HarveySpectre · 05/07/2015 05:26

And she is being criticised for being too charismatic Confused

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